Does SE want to us go back to WoW? Because this is how you lose MORE players to WoW.

"WoW artifact weapons: Come with an entire skill/trait tree that you can customize to your play style, make your weapon have enemies explode for AOE damage when they die, or increase the crit chance of your most used ability by 10%, or doubling the affects of all of your passive abilities gained from the weapon for a short time, or summon enemies you can kill to restore 10% of your mana
FFXIV relic weapons: random 2 secondary stats you get no control over"

For example, Why would I grind for a BLM Relic that has CRIT, DET, while there is a i210 with SPELL SPEED and DET... and another with SPELL SPEED and crit.

Seriously SE, Heavensward has been an absolute train wreck. I sincerely hope 3.2 is good because at this moment I'm done. There's no reason to continue my sub right now.

so there not even final form yet.. calm down

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Originally Posted by CyrusBryant

For example, Why would I grind for a BLM Relic that has CRIT, DET, while there is a i210 with SPELL SPEED and DET... and another with SPELL SPEED and crit.

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I feel you answered your own question. You don't. Go get the better weapon and save yourself the grind. People seem to just ignore the fact that these weapons, are, in every single possible way, 100% OPTIONAL CONTENT. If you don't wanna grind out the weapon, go do Thordan. Go to Alex Savage. And if you don't want to do either of those things, there is literally, LITERALLY, no reason you need a 210 weapon.

I seen that too, it was like wow devs read our forums or something lol

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so there not even final form yet.. calm down

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I disagree with this mentality. How long are we supposed to continue paying $8-$15 a month for them to make something worth grinding for? 3.4? 3.5? At this rate it'll be next Fall before that happens.

I already unsubbed. They are not children and know perfectly well what they did wrong. Enjoy!

I also want to point out, for the incoming white knights, that a few of the players above do NOT have 100s or 1000s of posts.

Please stop assuming that everyone complaining about the Anima relic grind are part of the vocal minority. Getting sick of that excuse too.

Don't unsub and play WoW, unsub and play Blade and Soul like my raid group is doing ^^

Those complaining don't have access to another 210 weapon.

It's easy to say that it's too much for an item level that already exists, but if you aren't farming as4 then that weapon does not exist to you. It's like complaining that we have to work 9-5 for a paltry wage when better jobs exist, you do it because those jobs are outside of your level.

And stop with the 'white knight' crap. If you get your opinion on why this is the Devils work then I'm allowed mine on why you're all just a bunch of whiny, entitled brats.

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Originally Posted by CyrusBryant

"WoW artifact weapons: Come with an entire skill/trait tree that you can customize to your play style, make your weapon have enemies explode for AOE damage when they die, or increase the crit chance of your most used ability by 10%, or doubling the affects of all of your passive abilities gained from the weapon for a short time, or summon enemies you can kill to restore 10% of your mana
FFXIV relic weapons: random 2 secondary stats you get no control over"

For example, Why would I grind for a BLM Relic that has CRIT, DET, while there is a i210 with SPELL SPEED and DET... and another with SPELL SPEED and crit.Seriously SE, Heavensward has been an absolute train wreck. I sincerely hope 3.2 is good because at this moment I'm done. There's no reason to continue my sub right now.

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Please consider, that WoW Legion will be released in August/September 2016 and until then NO new Content will be added to the game. Means ~15 month without any new Content. (And many of you are already whining about a 5 month content drought.)

Please note, too, that the Artefact Weapon in Legion will be the ONLY Weapon that you wil gain through the entire Addon. Further into the Addon you can unlock more Glamor options but no new Weapon at all.

Now, please tell me. How many different Weapons did you already wield in HW until now?