Byregot's Brow: The most under-rated crafting skill!

For those unaware, Byregot's Brow: Increases quality 150% + 10% for each Inner Quiet stack. 70% success rate. IQ ends on use. Can only be used if Condition is Good or Excellent.

HOLY COW is this awesome!

Okay, let me tell you why. I am a macro-crafter. I spend hours calculating the best possible macros and I consider myself pretty damn good at it. But one of the biggest frustrations was coming up with a 100% HQ macro, only to have it fail because Byregot's Blessing fell on a Poor condition. The answer? Byregot's Brow.

Specifically: Great Strides, Brow, Steady Hand, Blessing.

Here's the breakdown: On the Great Strides turn, if condition is...
- Poor: returns to Normal, Brow doesn't work, Steady Hand has a second chance of getting Good/Excellent for Blessing.
- Normal: Could proc a Good/Excellent for Brow, but if not then SH gives a second chance.
- Good: returns to Normal, which is a shame. Brow doesn't work, SH gives second chance.
- Excellent: what used to be a ball-buster Poor Byregot's is turned on its head. Brow will not go off, moving on to Steady Hand which resets the condition to Normal for your Blessing.

So no matter what happens, you will always have Normal, Good or Excellent on your Byregot's. Say goodbye to Poor Byregot's forever!

Just thought I'd share this with you guys. Hope it helps!

So basically you're using it as "skip a turn unless it's Good Status, in which case process Byregot's Brow". Good plan, saves the CP associated with the "official" skip ability.

Or am I reading it wrong? I don't use macros for crafting as I can never seem to get them to work as described.

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Originally Posted by Niet

I am a macro-crafter. I spend hours calculating the best possible macros and I consider myself pretty damn good at it.

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While I am glad that you are enjoying your macroing, serious crafters do not use macros. They do not need to macro lower level things, and cannot afford to macro the higher level things (things like 2 star crafts).

If your IQ is showing 1-5, then BBrow is going to give more, on a Good/Excellent, than BBlessing, on that same Condition.
If your IQ is showing 6, then BBrow is going to give exactly the same Quality, on a Good/Excellent, as BBlessing, on that same Condition.
If your IQ is showing 7 or higher, then BBlessing will actually return more Quality on a Good/Excellent than BBrow will.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

While I am glad that you are enjoying your macroing, serious crafters do not use macros. They do not need to macro lower level things, and cannot afford to macro the higher level things (things like 2 star crafts).

If your IQ is showing 1-5, then BBrow is going to give more, on a Good/Excellent, than BBlessing, on that same Condition.
If your IQ is showing 6, then BBrow is going to give exactly the same Quality, on a Good/Excellent, as BBlessing, on that same Condition.
If your IQ is showing 7 or higher, then BBlessing will actually return more Quality on a Good/Excellent than BBrow will.

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This is in regards to macro-crafting only. It is a decent way to prevent a poor on Byregots while macroing. This is great for pretty much any macro'd finisher that a poor would result in less then 100% HQ. A lot of serious crafters do use macros, contrary to your belief.

The only craft I currently do not have a macro for is 2 star. Not because I can not afford it, but because I can sell excess HQ mats for enough to pay for the ones I actually use. Everything else is perfectly fine to macro, as it allows me to chat while I craft.

That's actually kinda interesting. I've been getting around it by having an extra step of redundancy, but this'd lemme shave off a few seconds/craft.
But when Blessing is used (as part of the activation cost) it ends the IQ effect, and Brow does likewise too. Regardless of success/fail.
So if you're popping Brow vanilla at 70% and it goes off on a good/excel and subsequently fails, there would be no SH BB fail-state backup because you'd have no IQ stacks.
On poor/normal the game would skip Brow and you'd get an extra chance as intended.
I'd want SH2 running before Brow so this would be +25 cp (+3 sh2, +22 sh after it), and +2s for the extra SH buff. I'm not actually sure if I have that much leeway cp-wise.

x, SH2, GS, Brow, progress/Observe/Inno, Blessing
or SH2, x, GS, Brow, progress/Observe/Inno, Blessing

would be the better option in this case I think, being +3/17/21cp instead. progress being cs2 or ss if it's not a 1-shot finisher.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

While I am glad that you are enjoying your macroing, serious crafters do not use macros. They do not need to macro lower level things, and cannot afford to macro the higher level things (things like 2 star crafts).

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It's not a matter of needing to it's a matter of laziness & multitasking. When I'm bulk crafting I'm sure as shit not doing it by hand because that's unnecessary effort & boring af.

Blessing being better/worse is irrelevant to what the usage he's suggesting is - macro only, and for consistency via dodging BB + poor.
Brow on good is going to be more than Blessing on normal/poor at any equivalent # of stacks, which is the only way it's firing off at all.

Regarding the use of macros in high-level crafts, I actually use a macro for my 2-star crafts and they have yet to fail me since adopting this "double Byregot's" finisher. The cost, of course, is I had to cap every possible CP, although since improving my Craft/Control I've been able to lessen that requirement. Now I "only" need 414CP + Baked Onion Soup! :D

Regarding the 70% thing, yes if Brow fails then you lose your IQ entirely for no gain. However, just make sure your rotation allows for Steady Hand II to have one turn left when it comes time to Brow. 100% success rate ^^

Other than that, Rath and hqdm have answered Roth's issues just fine :)

I have been tinker with similar macros choices only with Basic Touch and Precise Touch. The CP cost is the same but I just hate that have to change my macro lines FROM:
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>

TO:
/ac "Precise Touch"
/ac "Basic Touch"
/wait 3

This significantly increase my macro length and requires me to press 3 buttons instead of 1 for an HQ mats macros.
Most often I just say forget it, and use /ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3> allowing me extra touches, and fewer button presses at the expense of RNG.


OP, I love the finisher idea for brow. And will definitely be adding it to my macros.

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

/ac "Precise Touch"
/ac "Basic Touch"
/wait 3

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Have you tried:

/ac "Precise Touch"
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>

Granted it still takes two lines, but I've found that I can't squeeze Lv51-60 rotations into a single macro anyway, but with the Precise/Basic it fits nicely in two.

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Originally Posted by Niet

Have you tried:

/ac "Precise Touch"
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>

Granted it still takes two lines, but I've found that I can't squeeze Lv51-60 rotations into a single macro anyway, but with the Precise/Basic it fits nicely in two.

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Nope, it never occurred to me that the <wait.3> would be honoured, as it would be on the line that the command will not function due to cool down from precise touch.

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

Nope, it never occurred to me that the <wait.3> would be honoured, as it would be on the line that the command will not function due to cool down from precise touch.

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The <wait.3> command should work regardless of whether the preceding action processed or not. I say should but I don't use crafting macros. I know that the macro I have for setting my fairy to certain modes still honours the wait even if the action can't be processed for whatever reason.