The Greystone Bastard (naming lore query)

I noticed that in the description of Haurchefaunt's painting, his full name is revealed as "Haurchefaunt Greystone" instead of Fortemps. I assume this is because he is illegitimate.

Does Greystone come from his mother's side, or does this mean that there is a ASoIaF-style system of naming bastards like "Snow" and "Rivers" and Greystone is a reference to a bastard born in Ishgard city. If so are there other lore-accurate bastard surnames?


Edit - we have received the answer:

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Originally Posted by Corvinoobus

Hey guys,

Just popping in to remove all ambiguity: Greystone is a bastard surname. That is all. Carry on!

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It would make sense. I don't know if we have ever had anything official.

I don't believe we've gotten any official word on it, no; though I expect this patch might illuminate it somewhat since we appeared to be dealing with the trueborn Fortemps sons. It's worth noting I don't even think we were aware of his bastard status before 3.0

(Also why the hell did they add an extraneous u to his name in all the descriptions of items dealing with him in 3.1)

I am kind of going crosseyed at how much Heavensward Lore was lifted from Game of Thrones.

Anyway the Graystone surname was hinted at

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If you look at his monument and can parse the Eorzean script there

I'm curious about the Greystone thing as well (it really threw me for a loop when I saw it after waking up at 5am this morning and has been nagging me all through class).

I like the ASoFaI naming convention similarity idea, because if the name came from his mother, then that begs the question: why does it look so hyuran? Does Haurchefant harbor hyruan heritage that doesn't show AT ALL in his appearance? lol (I laugh but I would not put it past the devs)

And considering the racial divide which favors elezen in Ishgard, if they do give ll illegitimate children a generic last name (like in ASoFaI), I can see it making sense for the illegitimate-kid name to be of the hyuran convention.

Hopefully they'll explain the Greystone thing in the MSQ or through an NPC or something, it puzzled me as well.

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Originally Posted by heiligeharmonie

I like the ASoFaI naming convention similarity idea, because if the name came from his mother, then that begs the question: why does it look so hyuran? Does Haurchefant harbor hyruan heritage that doesn't show AT ALL in his appearance? lol (I laugh but I would not put it past the devs)

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I thought the same when I read the name, lol. But that there's really no hint for that, while it's quite visible on Hilda... Shouldn't there at least be something? Wouldn't that also mean that there could be much more half-breeds around than just her? It would have some interesting implications.

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Originally Posted by heiligeharmonie

And considering the racial divide which favors elezen in Ishgard, if they do give ll illegitimate children a generic last name (like in ASoFaI), I can see it making sense for the illegitimate-kid name to be of the hyuran convention.

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This is probable, I think. It's still quite sad he wasn't even allowed to really take on his family's surname...

(But hey, at least I wasn't mad for thinking 'this doesn't look like 'Fortemps' there, lol...)
But then, was he ever called Haurchefant Fortemps except by fans? I think he was allways described as the 'young lord(ling) of house Fortemps', so maybe that should have given us some hint earlier.

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Originally Posted by Yuyuka3

(But hey, at least I wasn't mad for thinking 'this doesn't look like 'Fortemps' there, lol...)
But then, was he ever called Haurchefant Fortemps except by fans? I think he was allways described as the 'young lord(ling) of house Fortemps', so maybe that should have given us some hint earlier.

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I am fairly certain that you're correct about that. As far as I can remember, no one ever refers to him with a surname in the game.

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Originally Posted by Yuyuka3

(But hey, at least I wasn't mad for thinking 'this doesn't look like 'Fortemps' there, lol...)
But then, was he ever called Haurchefant Fortemps except by fans? I think he was allways described as the 'young lord(ling) of house Fortemps', so maybe that should have given us some hint earlier.

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I recall several moments during our first visit to coerthas and a few other times when visiting haurchy he was referred to his subordinates as "lord Fortemps"

Though i could be imagining things. hard to think when you have dogsong stuck in your head.

I just saw this, what in the world! I had to do a double take.. Does it bother anyone else that they misspelled his name all over the place in the patch notes?