Shields & Parrying in 1.19

Hi,

Since 1.19 dropped I haven't seen a single parry while playing my Gladiator with a shield equipped. Today I decided to unequip my shield and go fight some stuff and in the very first fight I got two parries (and many in the following fights). I am not the only one who has noticed this, as other gladiators I have talked to have confirmed the lack of parries while wearing a shield.

Has anyone seen a parry that didn't come from Foresight while they were wearing a shield? Pretty sure this is a bug, and a pretty big one at that.

-edit- even with Foresight 2 + Axemanship and like 3 mobs (2 lance, 1 pgl) beating on me I haven't seen a parry.

enemy miss = parry & evade now work

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Originally Posted by indira

enemy miss = parry & evade now work

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Excuse me? Can you type this again in English?

-edit- I should clarify: I realize that evades are reported as misses in the combat log right now. Parries, however, are not. This is very easy to test. Just load up foresight 2 and go fight some stuff with a shield equipped.

So what you're saying is, now you can parry only when you don't have a shield equipped? If you have one, you only get blocks?

Interesting. Given how gimped shield abilities are now, it might be a viable option to grab Marauder skills and go shieldless with a Glad now.

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Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon

So what you're saying is, now you can parry only when you don't have a shield equipped? If you have one, you only get blocks?

Interesting. Given how gimped shield abilities are now, it might be a viable option to grab Marauder skills and go shieldless with a Glad now.

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This is exactly what I am saying. With how low the rate of blocks is versus same-or-higher level enemies it almost seems worth it to drop the 4 shield abilities (aegis, deflection, outmaneuver, war drum) and just load defensive stuff from other classes with an empty off-hand. The biggest loss is probably war drum considering how weak the shield abilities are right now.

deflection, aegis boon 2, & outmaneuver is all you need instead of depending on "auto-block".

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Originally Posted by kwestro

deflection, aegis boon 2, & outmaneuver is all you need instead of depending on "auto-block".

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All three of these abilities depend on auto-block. Have you played Gladiator since the patch or are you just typing words at the screen?

-edit- besides which this has NOTHING to do with PARRY NOT WORKING WITH A SHIELD EQUIPPED

p.s. Aegis, et al, depend on your auto-block rate. Like completely. They just alter the effect of your blocks.

Bumping this since I made the thread at like 4 am whoops

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Originally Posted by indira

enemy miss = parry & evade now work

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Completely false on the parry side. I've parried since 1.19 on my Marauder and it's the same as always. The damage dealt is much lower and the parry animation triggers.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Completely false on the parry side. I've parried since 1.19 on my Marauder and it's the same as always. The damage dealt is much lower and the parry animation triggers.

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Yes. Parries are reported accurately, evades are reported as misses. You can't parry with a shield equipped right now but I'm pretty certain evade is working.