This game currently is too short sighted in keeping everyone happy by trying to make everybody relevant and outdating its gear with every new addition to force people into a carbon copied version of the same Tome Farming System...
Time to wake up FFXIV, you don't have to recreate the wheel here, your company made a great, albeit slow and less pretty version of the game you have now. While I'm not saying go back to farming NMs or camping Faf for 12+hrs just to not get claim and piss off your E.G. Shell, I am saying look at the systems that popularized the game (Nyzul, Neo-Dynamis, Salvage, Assaults, Campaign, Beseiged, Sea), the classes and how they interconnected and balanced one another, and start getting creative. Unless this game is designed to have only a 5 year run, stop trying so hard to be new that in actuality you're just being played out like every MMO before you.
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09-05-2015, 05:46 AMLilith_MerquiseDr. Yosheep and how I learned to love the RNG, New event/reward system?
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09-05-2015, 05:52 AMRisvertasashi
Balanced classes? You mean in that game where you have to be 1 of 5 jobs the community prefers of the 22 jobs available to do endgame... or they would rather spend hours shouting than take you?
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09-05-2015, 06:02 AMLilith_MerquiseI never said that FFXI had "Balanced Classes" and while its later less popular iteration of content made many more classes necessary for "Procing" in Abyssea or Voidwatch. What I'm saying is, stop trying to preserve every class by making all of them flat. Classes like BRD still getting the shaft and only really being brought for the possibility of using Mana/TP regen, but mostly to hit from range when boss zones out the melee dps to keep up with check. While having classes like WAR that make PLD basically obsolete in End Game Content. FFXI may not of been balanced, but at least it didn't pretend to be like this game does with its class system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risvertasashi
IF anything that is everything my post is arguing against is the desire to make every class relevant for all content at the cost of hindering other classes or newer ones. -
09-05-2015, 10:22 AMNadirah
So.. you're asking for niche content that isn't worth the investment time?
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09-05-2015, 10:42 AMLilith_Merquise
^^ I get that the intention was to be funny, but it falls flat when you don't source what you're refering to. Because I'm saying for there not to be content that is phased out so quickly as it currently is which would increase the value of your time investment in obtaining it. So if you're going to troll, be specific.
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09-05-2015, 05:01 PMSarealSo are you happy?Quote:
keeping everyone happy
It's time to wake up FFXIV? Or it's time for FFXIV to wake up? Or SE?Quote:
Time to wake up FFXIV, you don't have to recreate the wheel here
But I thought you said they were trying something new?Quote:
you're just being played out like every MMO before you.
I guess not then?Quote:
force people into a carbon copied version of the same Tome Farming System...
Look, I'm not trying to troll here, but perhaps I'm simply too "Short Sighted" to understand what you are talking about? Your post just doesn't make sense to me. I'm sorry. However, I played FFXI for 7 years and I personally can't agree on bringing back more features from it. I'm satisfied with the current system and overall experience. -
09-05-2015, 05:09 PMLilith_Merquise
I'll make this quick because I'm not in the mood for silly riddles that don't address the topic at all.
1. Yes I'm happy with how classes operate to an extent but the route this game is taking on aquiring gear that defeats the purpose of previous gear. Also not committing to supports having strong utility out of fear that they will become necissary as opposed to being optional.
2. This is pure semantics, the point is SE stop pandering to the lowest common denominator, people that play this game should be able to handle more then just a pigeon holed role.
3. I said, "Stop TRYING so hard to be new..." I'm not saying it shouldn't take a new approach but I'm saying stop trying to reinvent the wheel here. There is perfectly good systems that this company has created for loot and it basically harness none of them simply to say "We're FFXIV not FFXI" even though that same thinking is what lead to no chocobos and no marketboards.
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09-05-2015, 05:16 PMSarealThat's how you perceive it. It doesn't make it the truth. Riddles? I could say the same about your post. If your so hostile towards others disagreeing or trying to understand your point of view, why would you even come here and post?Quote:
I'll make this quick because I'm not in the mood for silly riddles that don't address the topic at all.
Welcome to the club? That's exactly what I'm trying to tell you. I don't understand what you are talking about at all. Explain, don't act like the world is against you. Is it such a sin to admit that I am overly confused by your post?Quote:
4. No idea what you're trying to say here...
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09-05-2015, 05:39 PMPence
Are you trying to ask for more variety in content, and less vertical - more horizontal progression?
I'm not even sure if you're talking about FFXI with this one. Balance was non-existent, and if you're not aware how XIV jobs compliment and enhance each other....well....Quote:
the classes and how they interconnected and balanced one another
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09-05-2015, 09:06 PMIsalaUnless you're a monk. Then screw you. Because the only thing a monk enhances (outside of Mantra) is another monk. Of course, this wouldn't be an issue if we had another class that also had blunt damage, or if Delirium actually acted like Dragon Kick completely. But, hey, there's always hope for 4.0 bringing in a blunt DPS, or Tank, or something in the 60-? range giving monk, something, ANYTHING that has synergy with another class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pence