Why are DPS so upset about tanks coming close to their DPS?

I mean this honestly.

I've seen a lot of...shall we say upset players who make it very vocal about their displeasure that tanks can come within 25% of the DPS of an actual DPS, and apparently think DPS should only be able to do, say, 10% of a DPS (See: Tera).


Why? I mean this as a honest engines question, a tank doing more damage not only encourages more people to tank since it's funner, but it also speeds up the run overall. And if there's still a 25% gap, you're still not going to bring a extra tank over a extra DPS, so what's the problem?

The Creme de la creme is on the wall. There's been a lot of hurt feelings since 3.0 about our Warrior dps, which is why I love that you point out DD still puts out 25% or more damage than a really good aggressive tank, and that % will scale upward and the gap will be larger as new tiers are released. Ppl always need something to complain about. Take away a tank's ability to deal damage, they'll find some other whiner banner to rally for.

#DarkWarriodin

To be honest, I think this COULD be a problem if this was a PvP game, where a class having double or triple the survival of a DPS class doing only 25% less damage than then is a problem. However, this is NOT a PvP game. The tank that has double or triple your survival is ON YOUR SIDE! Them doing more damage only means that this particular person who is tougher to kill than you is also helping you kill your target.

Increased DPS makes tanks "more fun" and more approachable to those people that find the pure low-damage-high-defense archetypes VERY boring.

There is no reason for people to complain. But no matter what you do, people will always find something to complain about.

The problem with this world is: The only vocal people are the ones with the problems. The only people complaining about economical depression are the ones having problems finding jobs and paying the bills. You won't find someone coming up on TV and saying: "Thank God/Budha/Government/what have you for the Job I have and the solid income that Bills are an after thought". Subsequently, you won't find a warrior coming to these forums opening a thread with a: "My survival is amazing and my DPS is HUGE! Thank you God/Budha/SE/What have you For The Amazing Game-Time I have!"

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

#DarkWarriodin

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You summoned?

I think I should find that original comment and make it my signature! Lol

TBH I haven't seen this complaint from DPSes.
The only complaints about DPS focus on tanks I've heard comes from healers, who have to deal with inexperienced tanks forgetting to do Job 1 (LIVE) before they do Job 2.

so far i only get 1 person who complain and visibly upset about it
after i share my high fell cleave damage photo to certain facebook group
we got to a long argument and i ended up blocking his account because of it lol

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Originally Posted by Phoenicia

To be honest, I think this COULD be a problem if this was a PvP game, where a class having double or triple the survival of a DPS class doing only 25% less damage than then is a problem. However, this is NOT a PvP game.

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Well, it does have PVP. They've just not done a very good job with it, so not a lot of people partake in it. If they ever make changes such that it becomes more popular, tank DPS could become an issue, at which point they might take the same route for tanks that they did with healers: deactivating the DPS stances in PvP.

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Originally Posted by Alahra

Well, it does have PVP. They've just not done a very good job with it, so not a lot of people partake in it. If they ever make changes such that it becomes more popular, tank DPS could become an issue, at which point they might take the same route for tanks that they did with healers: deactivating the DPS stances in PvP.

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I think the closest analogue to disabling Cleric Stance would be locking Tanks into Tank Stance. Just being unable to use DPS stances isn't enough of a hit compared to the loss of Cleric Stance.

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Originally Posted by Donjo

I think the closest analogue to disabling Cleric Stance would be locking Tanks into Tank Stance. Just being unable to use DPS stances isn't enough of a hit compared to the loss of Cleric Stance.

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That's true.

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Originally Posted by Alahra

That's true.

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And what would locking Tanks into Tank Stance do? Cause the rise of the mighty MARAUDER as the King of PvP once again! Rawr!