Mr. Yoshi P, please read ;) old school quests desired

Hello, I'm only a 33 year old player but I remember playing games like Everquest, Everquest online adventures etc.

And having the read the quests for clues to find out where to go to complete the next step of the quest. And the difficulty was not easy. Forcing you to plan your attack and not just dps race the mobs down to death. True they had mobs that were not always linked to each other so you could single pull them away from each other since you were probably soloing them and had a chance to die and have to come back to it.

I hear about people complaini g about a moogle quest that is hard to find and I laugh because it seems that players are way to hand fed everything now and need to just be quiet and play the video game.

Suggestion:

Could we start including more quests that do not give any way points, are increased in difficulty and to reward those who complete them reward them with significantly wonderful items. Not just glamour but useable items.

Thank you

Did you ever do the Greatest Story Never Told?

I thoroughly enjoyed the scavenger hunt quest Matoya's Brooms gave out. I even saw another player completely stumped on the last step and they were shocked when I knew the answer before I even got there since we had actually started it at the same time. lol

I guess RPing as a Cartographer along with some of my IRL riddle skills payed off. I had even figured out who the "Mystery Thief" in a certain Mor Dohna side quest was before the NPCs did.

Oh how I eagerly await the next return of Hildibrand quest line.

That's another thing I miss is just randomly running in to other people on the same quest n trying to figure it out together.

The way questing is now it's just a check box n a waypoint you get n easy difficulty so most everyone blazes through them without reading or thinking.

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Originally Posted by Cryptfox

That's another thing I miss is just randomly running in to other people on the same quest n trying to figure it out together.

The way questing is now it's just a check box n a waypoint you get n easy difficulty so most everyone blazes through them without reading or thinking.

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Which I don't think is a bad thing for "Get <X> from <Y> and Take it to <Z>" but I think we need some more mystery style quests. I'd love for 3.1 to start a Sherlock Style quest for the scions where it gives us vague clues at best and then throws us in the dark with out the proverbial flash light to find them our selves. Of course there is also the issue of 20XX internet vs 199X internet too. Now a days after about the 9th person completes it there would be enough info on the forums to not have to look for anything. Not that that didn't happen then to but it took longer and was more difficult to share info with large groups vs now when we just type and hit the enter key.

The internet certainly does make these sort of quests harder, but maybe we could at least have some where, while not particularly difficult, are still a bit more interesting. Maybe something like that mini-game in FF7... there is a bit where you first get into the shinra building and have to give a word to the mayor. you go round the rooms and looks through the files to find which one is out of place, get a letter from it, put the letters together to form the codeword. Is this rocket science? no. is it a bit more interesting than speak to person A, speak to person B? imo yep

Well, the areas to go can cycle between different spots.

I know that the difficulty has dropped as far as normal questing goes.

I know it's a different game but as an example in the EQs Wizards had a hard time soloing but necrosis could easily.

They could have variants of the quest for each job n force you to complete it on whatever job you accepted it on.

A tank, ok spawn lots of mobs.
A healer, spawn mobs that stun.
Melee, triple the hp of the mobs n give them evasion.
Caster, a single mob with a long cooldown silence n a Ton of hp.

Force ppl to plan their attack.

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Originally Posted by Cryptfox

Well, the areas to go can cycle between different spots.

I know that the difficulty has dropped as far as normal questing goes.

I know it's a different game but as an example in the EQs Wizards had a hard time soloing but necrosis could easily.

They could have variants of the quest for each job n force you to complete it on whatever job you accepted it on.

A tank, ok spawn lots of mobs.
A healer, spawn mobs that stun.
Melee, triple the hp of the mobs n give them evasion.
Caster, a single mob with a long cooldown silence n a Ton of hp.

Force ppl to plan their attack.

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Plan the attack O_O that's Like fighting Twintania, Titan EX, and Nael deus Darnus all at the same time. There's to much combat as it, we need something original. A tower defence style mission like SoF, Mystery Quests like the cypher and broom quests. Maybe some kind of Indiana Jones style side quests that delve into some of the older/weirder places to uncover hidden lore and what not.

There's a difference between Challenging/Interesting and being absolute total BS. Having a fight specifically rigged against your main class is like Soloing T13 levels of stupid.

The complaints about the moggle quest were not about the difficulty, but about the tedium. There's only so many turns of hide and seek you can do before it gets aggravating! Anyways, I had mentioned the Greatest Story Never Told, which is definitely the style of quest you're looking for. I personally think both types of quests have merit. Similar to life, somethings are just straight forward "Do X for Y", and in others, some research is needed. I think prevents the team from developing more of these quests is that most players will avoid doing them.

Don't get off topic.

It's not about making it Coil difficulty. Just challenging enough to where you don't just blow through them.

The examples I gave were as if the person soloed it n gave an example how to make it a lil more challenging.

Don't go off topic pls