So Eos/Selene's healing just sucks now?

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I understand that Square is trying to balance the fairy healing, but I'm not sure I fully understand why Eos/Selene is healing for around 1.3k when the Scholar is healing for 2.6k with a spell that only has 100 potency more.

I feel as though their heals are just weak right now. And personally, I'd have no trouble healing as a 60 Scholar, so I can't truly complain all that much. However, I feel bad for Eos. Her main spell arsenal involves a healing over time spell, but even with Rouse, it only seems to heal for 600-700 HP.

This is difficult, since I am actually having no issues healing, but my fairy certainly isn't helping out the way they used to.

I think that means they made the fairies extra gear dependent so SCH wouldn't get an easy pass during the early days of lvl 60 content but they will scale with us as we gear up and start to feel more powerful.

It definitely did not scale to the level of the incoming damage or player HP did. It's about 35% stronger than the end of 2.0 - player HP are up like 75%. So fairy healing is comparatively weaker - and the "potency" on Embrace isn't relevant anymore since it's not an apples to apples comparison to our own heals as it used to be. Additionally, it's going to get worse as player HP raise via ilvl at a higher rate than a SCH gear upgrades impact fairy heals.

It's kind of annoying, but I am not sure anything is gonna be done, because at the same time it's pretty impossible to argue that SCH is in a bad place.

Yeah that's my issue. It's not a big problem since the Scholar's healing has certainly gotten better. I just feel as though the fairy should play a larger part. As it stands, I don't think Eos is necessary for anything in Heavensward. Maybe Savage Alexander will change that, but as it stands, with the fairies' healing being nerfed so badly, I cannot see a situation in which Eos' mediocre healing would ever be preferred over Selene's DPS buff and debuff cleansing.

It's bs. This sounds like more dancing around them just not saying "we nerfed the fairies." I just want an honest reply at this point.

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Originally Posted by ckc22

It's bs. This sounds like more dancing around them just not saying "we nerfed the fairies." I just want an honest reply at this point.

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Fairy healing needed to be balanced between Physick healing the same amount as a Cure and Lustrate changing to a potency instead of a percent. If fairy healing was the same as 2.0 it'd be much much harder to balance a class like AST vs. SCH because AST naturally lacks the fairy (though it's not like Noct Sect is balanced vs. SCH right now anyways).

Besides, this is like healing with i70 Darklight Gear was in 2.0, and Embrace is still like 2/3 of my Physick at 55 (AKA more total healing than Cure II/Benefic II when Embrace/Physick are combined).

Fairy healing nerf had to happen if you wanted to keep Physick relevant.

I don't mind it so much. From a balance perspective, there is something amiss when an entity that could cast a spell for free that out healed Regen by a significant amount at level 50; especially since both "tick" in the same three second interval. While this change was unexpected, it doesn't really bother me in the slightest either.

Now, when they do the NEXT level cap increase, they better keep the Fairy relatively inline with this particular curve. I think Embrace being equal or slightly weaker than Regen is a good place to be, but if you make it too weak than the Fairy will be nothing more than a buffing machine.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Fairy healing needed to be balanced between Physick healing the same amount as a Cure and Lustrate changing to a potency instead of a percent. If fairy healing was the same as 2.0 it'd be much much harder to balance a class like AST vs. SCH because AST naturally lacks the fairy (though it's not like Noct Sect is balanced vs. SCH right now anyways).

Besides, this is like healing with i70 Darklight Gear was in 2.0, and Embrace is still like 2/3 of my Physick at 55 (AKA more total healing than Cure II/Benefic II when Embrace/Physick are combined).

Fairy healing nerf had to happen if you wanted to keep Physick relevant.

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BS to embrace being 66% of your physick.

Again - if they were up front about it it would be an entirely different thing, first they ninja'd it in and then they gave this non-answer.

Keeping Rouse on cooldown despite the current state of fairy healing helps me to stay on CS for longer periods of time... That's also assuming that dps are good that the fairy is almost exclussively haling the tank.

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Originally Posted by Rubiss

Yeah that's my issue. It's not a big problem since the Scholar's healing has certainly gotten better. I just feel as though the fairy should play a larger part. As it stands, I don't think Eos is necessary for anything in Heavensward. Maybe Savage Alexander will change that, but as it stands, with the fairies' healing being nerfed so badly, I cannot see a situation in which Eos' mediocre healing would ever be preferred over Selene's DPS buff and debuff cleansing.

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It's actually the other way around, with Fey Illumination and Whispering Dawn (with or without the buffed Mind Pot) you can float for quite a while in CS, where as with Selene you can't hope to float anymore unless you have a good PLD with you.