Would it be wrong for all Healing jobs to have Stoneskin 2?

It sucks having a Ast or a Sch just sit there and have to SS the whole party one by one where Whm can just sneeze and the whole party is SS. Is it wrong to share SS2?

Well at least ast has lightspeed to SS a pt quite fast. Sch is the only slow one.

WHM already had to give up having a better version of Stoneskin and Protect which IMO was not really necessary (even though I find these very useful on my AST, as a former WHM main I'm still bitter about those changes). Taking away the meager Stoneskin 2 would just be a punch in the gut.

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Originally Posted by Leiloni

WHM already had to give up having a better version of Stoneskin and Protect which IMO was not really necessary (even though I find these very useful on my AST, as a former WHM main I'm still bitter about those changes). Taking away the meager Stoneskin 2 would just be a punch in the gut.

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Before, there was a technical reason to not share SS2: It was the 18% version. However, with the stoneskin (and protect) nerf... although that did really hurt in terms of white mage identity... at this point, it's pointless to keep it exclusive.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

Before, there was a technical reason to not share SS2: It was the 18% version. However, with the stoneskin (and protect) nerf... although that did really hurt in terms of white mage identity... at this point, it's pointless to keep it exclusive.

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Keep it exclusive because it's just an easy thing that the WHM's can offer. Sure, nobody is taking a WHM just for that, but it's a small benefit that's nice to have when playing as a WHM or with one. I don't see any reason to take away what few things they have over other jobs just for the sake of your own impatience.

Yes everyone should get SS2 or just make Stoneskin aoe out of combat.

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Originally Posted by Leiloni

Keep it exclusive because it's just an easy thing that the WHM's can offer. Sure, nobody is taking a WHM just for that, but it's a small benefit that's nice to have when playing as a WHM or with one. I don't see any reason to take away what few things they have over other jobs just for the sake of your own impatience.

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I main WHM ~.^

But by that logic, why have SS2 at all? It was added exactly because we complained about manually casting a buff on 8 people before each pull...

Me (SCH) and my AST partner just cast 4 SS each. I cast an extra for my loyal fairy. Its not like its as strong as it was before but still helps. I feel like a pre-succor on top of it is bit better now, back on 2.x I wouldn't even bother to cast it. But I agree that would be neat for other jobs to have SSII. I just wish Quick Stoneskin was a bit better since an AST with Lightspeed buff on will make better use of Stoneskin than a WHM.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

I main WHM ~.^

But by that logic, why have SS2 at all? It was added exactly because we complained about manually casting a buff on 8 people before each pull...

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Keep it for the WHM's but not the SCH or AST. Like I said, it's a "nice to have" convenience thing. Every class needs to have things that make them special that the others don't. WHM keeps losing all their special little things and that's just not fun.

I stopped using it because it was such a hindrance to cast to be honest, and with minimal rewards.

In before I get lectured for this, but it's the truth. Why should I bother casting it 8 times for every raid and every boss fight in the world when it only migrates 10% damage per person? When a single Cure I heals for like double that and is just easier.

Maybe I am lazy, but I don't see the point unless a fight for some reason demanded it.