I would like a numerical analysis of Bard MP regain and MCH MP regain

I honestly think Bard's MP regain is higher than MCH's from trying it out on the field.

Yes I know they stack, I was the first person to report that fact.

I want to know numbers.

Anyone have one yet? Still very interested in this question.

I'd be curious as well. I do know my machinist's TP song gives 30 TP every 3s

I thought SE had stated that the Bard's song would be the superior regen mechanic, due to them cutting our damage by 15%.

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Originally Posted by Mimiru_S

I thought SE had stated that the Bard's song would be the superior regen mechanic, due to them cutting our damage by 15%.

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We lose our turret damage when using promotion for tp/mp, which is 80 potency every couple of seconds. That's quite a lot of damage we lose as well.

doesn't the turret do about exactly that number?..

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Originally Posted by Kibbles

doesn't the turret do about exactly that number?..

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I think in most DPS parses I've seen it is about 11% with loss of turret.

Arguably the same, but for a less useful MP regen effect and so it is less worth it.

Bard trades off a slight % more of their damage in order to have a significantly more powerful MP/TP regen. Well worth it for the bard.

does this include with or with out hypercharge?

265 MP for both MCH and BRD, per tick of MP regeneration.

Turret is roughly 10-15% of a MCH's MP that they lose temporarily. BRD loses 15% damage while using Ballad but they also lose MP for Foe's, so it might actually be more painful for BRD to play Ballad/Paeon.

Brd also have battle voice which increases the regen.