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World name: Ragnarok
Character name: Biggs Lightdarker
Class/Level: Lv 50 BLM
I am missing one crit hit from my zeta relic, it should have +38 but I only have + 37. I know it's only one point difference but it still should not be happening.
To confirm the other stat on it is +53 spell speed only.
Missing stat on relic
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06-06-2015, 09:27 AMr3dmagikMissing stat on relic
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06-06-2015, 01:16 PMRaist
Did you assign a point in another stat? I know a lot of people applied 3 stats during the Alex phase in order to save the gil/speed up the process, intending to go back later and rework the stats. If you went this route, perhaps there is a glitch in the re-assignment after the fact--or you still have an odd point elsewhere to get rid of? If it has 5 Bonuses on it, then you still have an odd one you need to replace.
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06-06-2015, 09:40 PMr3dmagik
No I didn't assign a point to any other stat. It has only ever been spell speed and crit.
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06-06-2015, 11:42 PMStouterTaru
Why should it have 38? Dreadwyrm is 53/37 at the same ilvl...
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06-07-2015, 12:10 AMRaistBecause that is the distribution of the 2 stat Zeta Relic when completed. Can check my profile on Lodestone...should be showing my BLM or my BRD with their completed Zeta's equipped.Quote:
Originally Posted by StouterTaru
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06-07-2015, 02:13 AMStouterTaruIs the 38 determination by chance on both of them? Determination is different from other stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raist
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06-07-2015, 05:13 AMRaist
From what I've seen, the 44/31 allocations all upgrade to the same values in the end... 53/38.
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06-07-2015, 07:02 AMStouterTaruDo any of those have anything other than Determination for the 31/37?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raist
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06-07-2015, 07:43 AMRaistNot sure what you are getting at....DET caps at 31 in the Alexandrite stage. Piety has an odd cap, but the other stats in play on this staff cap at 44. The breakdown for just those two stats would be 44+31=75 (one was 44 because it scaled to 53, leaving only 31 for the other). You have to meld 75 alex to progress the weapon. So either it was initially done as a typical 44/31 two-stat weapon from the start and it glitched along the way, or it had a third or fourth stat applied in the mix and was later adjusted to two stats and it glitched there. My Lillith was done as 44/31 (SSpd/DET) and ended as 53/38--the numbers the OP expected to see. The same numbers happened with my bow (CRIT/DET).Quote:
Originally Posted by StouterTaru
Unless SE has done some funky algorithm for specific stat enhancements, going from the typical two-stat config of 44/31 all the way to completed Zeta should result in a 53/38 distribution across the board. That would be the question for the dev's---is it a flat increase from 44/31 to 53/38 in all scenarios, or are different stats weighted differently.
As we currently understand the process, you can sort of verify the potential by going to the Ariyala hunt tracker site and pulling up Disciple of War and Magic and view the Zeta Weapon stats. If you click on the Customization link, you will see the values listed on the sliders. (site has just gone AWOL all of a sudden. Hopefully it comes back soon). -
06-07-2015, 08:03 AMStouterTaruThat is exactly what they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raist
- Each stat has a cap for the ilvl/slot
- For the vast majority of gear ilvl55+, you get primary attributes, and 2 secondary stats
- You get one secondary stat capped, and another at ~70% of cap
- DET caps at ~70% of the main secondary stat caps, but it's a different ~70%, there are several examples where these values are different
If you put 31 DET on the weapon, you had capped DET for ilvl 110, and you get capped DET of 38 at ilvl135.
That info isn't datamined from the game files, it's compiled from user finds and assumptions. There is a lot of good info, but it also has quite a bit of incorrect assumptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raist