As a Warrior, thank you.

Not for the Warrior changes, no. The biggest buff on that list was the fact that Paladins finally have a separate combo.

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Originally Posted by Lacavi

Not for the Warrior changes, no. The biggest buff on that list was the fact that Paladins finally have a separate combo.

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PLD will finally have a DPS combo that isn't mostly enmity generating moves, finally.

Both the PLD and WAR new stuff looks cool and I am really interested to see how they work, particularly the new WAR stance and how the new party-centric abilities and buffs like Divine Veil will function in actual play scenarios especially in df pug groups.

Also very curious to see what kind of party buff type stuff DRK gets. WAR is offensive, they are giving PLD defensive, so then what for DRK? The party dynamics for tank jobs will be very interesting in HW.

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Also very curious to see what kind of party buff type stuff DRK gets. WAR is offensive, they are giving PLD defensive, so then what for DRK? The party dynamics for tank jobs will be very interesting in HW.

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I believe they said DRK will get a tank stance, which does not consume mana, and a DPS stance which does.

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@Kiroh

That's not what I meant, I know DRK will have a tank and dps stance. I was talking about party/raid buffs. WAR has the "enemy takes more slashing damage" debuff, which is functionally an offensive party/raid buff as it increases damage output of the raid. They stated that they will be doing something to PLD (maybe its Divine Veil?) so that they can buff the defense of the party/raid. That leads me to what I was wondering, what kind of party/raid buff type of stuff will DRK get? Will it be offensive focused like WAR or defensive like PLD or something else entirely and how will that effect the party dynamics of different tank combinations.

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Until SE says otherwise, expect "nothing".

@Kiroh

That's not what I meant, I know DRK will have a tank and dps stance. I was talking about party/raid buffs. WAR has the "enemy takes more slashing damage" debuff, which is functionally an offensive party/raid buff as it increases damage output of the raid. They stated that they will be doing something to PLD (maybe its Divine Veil?) so that they can buff the defense of the party/raid. That leads me to what I was wondering, what kind of party/raid buff type of stuff will DRK get? Will it be offensive focused like WAR or defensive like PLD or something else entirely and how will that effect the party dynamics of different tank combinations.

SHWIP SHWOO SHIIP SHWOO... SHPRRH

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PLD will finally have a DPS combo that isn't mostly enmity generating moves, finally.

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I'm so ready to not have to automatically have to fight every single PLD for aggro

The fun thing is, people who haven't played Warrior think I'm being sarcastic, I am not. Dealing with Paladins only having one combo was a nightmare.

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The fun thing is, people who haven't played Warrior think I'm being sarcastic, I am not. Dealing with Paladins only having one combo was a nightmare.

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I'm with you.

"Stop fighting with me when we swap! It's an ugly mess for everyone involved"

PLD: "but..... how do I do that?"

I'm really pleased with WAR in general after watching the stream.

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The fun thing is, people who haven't played Warrior think I'm being sarcastic, I am not. Dealing with Paladins only having one combo was a nightmare.

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Trust me, it was a nightmare for us too. We don't always wanna MT by default!