What MMO Grind is WORSE than relic/zodiac weapon grind?

I got an inspiration from seeing another topic, so I'm making this one ^^

So, to give some more perspective (or to give reason to) the people who complain so much about the relic weapon grind, why don't we start relating our worse experiences in MMO grinds, and how they relate to the "extreme" grind of the relic (now branded Zodiac) weapon chain quest?

I'll start with a simple one, that I mentioned in said topic: Lineage 2 leveling.

It was a given that most "unnoficial" L2 servers had triple or even 6x EXP rates. After lvl 60, it could require something from 8 to 10 hours of playing to go up a SINGLE level. And that with NOTHING to do besides killing random mobs on the field. Quests, Leves, exp bonuses? nah, we don't need no cheatin' in old MMO land. Our very LEVELS were conquered one by one in the firey pits of repetitive grinding! pfeh!

Relic weapon my schmepon... these kids know nothing, Jon Snow

Original relics in ffxi.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

Original relics in ffxi.

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Beat me to it.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

Original relics in ffxi.

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This is honestly the epitome of a "grind" for MMORPGs. When it's considered the norm to take 1-2 YEARS to complete, and not because of step-by-step quest introduction, well... we kinda have a winner.

Otherwise, I'd have to go with raid mount farming in WoW. Ashes of A'lar... /sigh. A lot easier now though, with account wide mounts/pets.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

This is honestly the epitome of a "grind" for MMORPGs. When it's considered the norm to take 1-2 YEARS to complete, and not because of step-by-step quest introduction, well... we kinda have a winner.

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Years? Literally??

Ragnarok online, the legit servers the one with x1 exp only. A Korean mmorpg
No quests, no leves and no "dailies" just pure grind from lvl 1-99 then you can transcend your character and you have to begin at lvl 1 then climb your way back to lvl 99 but it takes x3 longer to get there. That's just to max out your character :p

People complaining abou atma? Heh try the card grind there. There's a socket system where a monster will drop their card to enhance your equipments. Ranges from +1 atk to spell immunity and everything in between. Each monster has a different card.

What's the drop rate? .01% this includes the cards that bosses drop. Also there's no "chest or loot" system. If the monster dies it drops the items to the ground so you better pick it up. It takes around a year or two of playing it regularly just to catch up to others. That's only the tip of the iceberg XD that's old school mmo right there. It makes the relic grind a walk in the park.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

Original relics in ffxi.

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Original mythics. Ffxi. Counted in years
Original relics. Ffxi. Counted in years.
Original empyreams. Ffxi. Around 1 year.

most endgame items in xi you chased for months or years. Not just these legendary level weapons, but powerful armor too. They rarity level of items in ffxi combined with the larger raid/endgame group size (competition for items) would put most of the 14 official forums into a mental institution. You worked to get many, many items for months and years, and that was just normal.

It took me longer to get an assault jerkin than get a nexus.

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Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark

It was a given that most "unnoficial" L2 servers had triple or even 6x EXP rates.

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I am guessing, that by "unofficial" server, you are referring to private unlicensed game servers correct?

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Originally Posted by Leowilde

Years? Literally??

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That was the norm back when it was relevant, yes. A handful of players finished in several months, but that was through the entire LS's attempts to get this ONE person their completed relic and everyone took the initiative to get currency from others. In other words, a true sense of the "greater good" needed to happen among all members. Nearly the entire process was based on RNG from an event that you could do only once a week called Dynamis. Among other things, you'd need Beastmen currency... A LOT of currency. The average take away was around 200 or so, if I remember correctly. You'd need around 17500 or so coins, among which was a mix and match between 3 different types of Beastmen currency. Again, that 200 or so is assuming your LS has agreed to give ONLY you all currency drops. It was also possible to buy currency, but it was essentially a career long commitment to invest in at the time.

Mythic in FFXI is probably the worst grind by far.