The increased drop rate on the ponies is cool and all, and I also like the quest for the Kirin mount, but as of now I cannot, for the life of me, get through Titan Extreme. I know the mechanics, the patterns, everything I need. I've tried both in DF and in pre-made parties, but the issue is still the same: the response from my connection is too slow, and eventually a plume or landslide will get me.
I can have all the best reflexes in the world (and again, a videogame shouldn't even require that much constrain, not everyone is an air pilot), but if my connection is too slow to move my character, I will still get stuck.
So please, now that its rewards are not game-breaking or super powerful, could we have some tweaks on the EX primals, so that I can have a day without getting flamed on by my party because of my lag (apparently, lag issues do not exist. It's all excuses.)?
Sincerely, from a very stressed Italian player with her server on the other side of the world.
EDIT: Okay, I think the point of everyone's opinions has been pretty much made. I appreciate those who showed sympathy, as much as those who gave helpful advice. I feel happy for those who have no latency issue and can have this fight proceed smoothly even from Europe. However, I do not enjoy insults and non-constructive criticize as much as I do not enjoy receiving them in Duty, so I think I will stop looking at this thread as I fear it's going to turn into a nest of venomous comebacks that I'd rather be not a part of. If people have been hurt by my suggest again I apologize as much as I did in a previous post.
I hope everyone has a good day, and I hope that I will not make so many players upset at me in future content.
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02-17-2015, 01:15 AMBluevannNow that it is "old content", could we get a nerf on Titan EX? (lag woes)
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02-17-2015, 01:20 AMSekhmetM
Plot twist. TC really does just suck at dodging.
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02-17-2015, 01:23 AMFranSeara
lol, Everything Titan is laggy. I think SE would have to redo ALL the Titans fights to help laggy players pass them. I have lag issues with Levi Ex, but I'm not going to ask for it to be nerfed at this point. Titan may always be laggy ,I dont think its going to change.....
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02-17-2015, 01:31 AMMeiUshu
when I passed Titan Ex, it took me basically 500+ log into Titan Ex to pass it, I had to learn the fight by heart and anticipate by 1/2 sec (which is what my lag was) anything which means I had to move before anything was even showing on my screen/bar or I would die each time. Back then when people like me were saying we were lagging bad, we were met with hate and insults. I dont think they will nerf it as you ask although I wished it was the case, I would suggest that you learn that fight by heart, after a while it becomes a second nature though and with a good group you will pass it without too much problems. I know is silly but not much else to do.
Good luck with your request and sincerely hope somethign will be done
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02-17-2015, 01:36 AMBluevannPC^^; I've done all HMs and also Garuda EX (and Levi/Moogle story mode), and can't say I've ever had the same issues I've had on Titan. Hell, Twintania was a piece of cake in comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by FranSeara
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02-17-2015, 01:51 AMRisvertasashi
While I also don't like fighting systems that test your connection as much as if not more than skill... there is one practical solution that's been mentioned.
Titan's rotation is fixed. (Most fights in the game are like this, actually). It's possible to anticipate and start moving before Weights or Landslide come out. I do this even though my connection is good enough not to require it--it comes naturally with enough practice. There are guides that break down his exact rotation, but even just a good friend on teamspeak can tell you what's coming next. Also, your side-profile thing says you're maining BLM... if that's accurate, don't forget about sprint. For us mages, it's free.
Also I see you're on Balmung... I'm running with my static over the next few days but this weekend I could try to help you clear titan EX, maybe get a few friends to help too.
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02-17-2015, 02:05 AMStouterTaruIt works with plumes, but good luck on landslide with that. There's a decent chance that your preemptive dodging puts you over the edge.Quote:
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02-17-2015, 02:05 AMBluevannThanks for the offer, maybe I'll look you up! I'm main BLM yes, but I've given up on trying this as BLM since I couldn't cast anything. I'm now trying this as NIN, see if the movement speed helps me. And yes, moving forward ahead helps, but the thing is, it's the connection that handles the character's position. If I move away from the AoE that is to come but my connection thinks my character is still there, I'll still get hit. It's why I keep dying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risvertasashi
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02-17-2015, 02:05 AMRufalus
It's one of the most mechanically simple endgame fights, so it would be difficult to nerf without completely redesigning it into a different kind of challenge that is about complicated mechanics instead of reactionary dodging. If they just slowed it way down or made the attacks weak enough that you don't need to move, then you wouldn't be doing anything. I play from europe and there is rarely ever enough latency to make dodging a challenge, so I suspect people who view Titan as more difficult than other battles are using a computer with low framerate. Try reducing the graphics settings to give yourself a more consistent and faster refresh rate so you can see when it's time to move before it's too late.
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02-17-2015, 02:17 AMLethallin
I've somewhat recently done a Titan EX where a DPS died before the heart phase by falling off, and another fell off after heart phase and we still managed to beat it.
It's unfortunate that you can't dodge it, but there's not really anything they can do to nerf it even more then it already is from the much better gear and the echo buff that's available without completely redesigning the fight and turning it into something else entirely.
You could also tank it. You don't need AS much reaction timing if you're tanking it, as 1/2 the time you're not even dodging landslides.
Another solution to landslides at least is what someone else said, and stay inside his hitbox, just far enough in to where a plume won't hit the tank. Then if he turns around, you don't have a lot of space to move to get behind him and the landslides won't hit you.