Ok, seriously?

First the i80 cap Wolves' Den mode, now Frontlines (Slaughter).

Why the hell is there no in game indication that you should talk to the NPCs to unlock these? This makes no sense to me, I doubt it would skyrocket PvPs popularity if people didn't have to go to the patch notes to find these things, but it certainly wouldn't go amiss... I can see people coming back to the game after a break and just being totally unaware of new modes if they're not indicated anywhere in game...

Meanwhile, a new NPC selling no more than half a dozen new furniture items gets a bleedin' quest icon above her head... Is that how low down on the list of priorities PvP is? That furniture gets a "Hey what's this?" but i80 Wolves' Den, Frontlines (Slaughter) and the Frontlines Roulette don't?

Is it a massive issue? Not really. It's more like a paper cut, I'm almost wondering if the developers are committing Lingchi against the PvP community at this point...

That is a very valid point. I honestly think requiring a quest at all to unlock frontlines is a huge mistake. PVP needs more people, adding more hurdles to jump over isn't helping anyone.

The person I talked to for flagging Slaughter had the quest icon and he is right next to the GC counter. It's pretty hard to miss.

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Originally Posted by Recaldy

The person I talked to for flagging Slaughter had the quest icon and he is right next to the GC counter. It's pretty hard to miss.

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I had no quest; literally just went to my GC place, went "Why is there no quest icon?" then went to check the NPC at the airship dock, still no quest icon, talked to him and got access.

Either there is a bug afoot or you were also doing the original quest for Frontlines (Secure).

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Originally Posted by Nalien

I had no quest; literally just went to my GC place, went "Why is there no quest icon?" then went to check the NPC at the airship dock, still no quest icon, talked to him and got access.

Either there is a bug afoot or you were also doing the original quest for Frontlines (Secure).

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Same here. The patch notes do tell you but it wasn't obvious.

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Upon unlocking Frontline, players can speak with one of the following NPCs to gain access to the Borderland Ruins (Slaughter).



Maelstrom

Limsa Lominsa – Upper Decks

Maelstrom Command (X:12 Y:12)
NPC: Foreign Levy Flyer

Maelstrom Command (X:12 Y:12)
NPC: Foreign Levy Flyer



Order of the Twin Adder

New Gridania

Airship Landing (X:11 Y:13)
NPC: Yellow Serpent Flyer

The Adders' Nest (X:9 Y:11)
NPC: Yellow Serpent Flyer



Immortal Flames

Immortal Flames

Airship Landing (X:10 Y:11)
NPC: Free Brigade Flyer
Hall of Flames (X:8 Y:9)
NPC: Free Brigade Flyer

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maybe its our GC, since some people dont see it, and other people see it

maelstorm doesnt have it...

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Originally Posted by Nalien

I had no quest; literally just went to my GC place, went "Why is there no quest icon?" then went to check the NPC at the airship dock, still no quest icon, talked to him and got access.

Either there is a bug afoot or you were also doing the original quest for Frontlines (Secure).

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Could be. Mine was Twin Adder and he was nowhere near the airship dock.

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Originally Posted by Recaldy

Could be. Mine was Twin Adder and he was nowhere near the airship dock.

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Weird, I'm Twin Adder too.

Patch notes mention a Yellow Serpent Flyer at Adders' Nest but I must have been there a dozen times since the update hit and not seen anything... Based on the ADS mount Achievement though, perhaps it is an issue with switching Grand Company? I was originally in Maelstrom. Either way it's sloppy...

I'm Flames and I did not see any quest marker over the Flames NPC when I flagged it.

This is indeed ridiculous, exactly the same as when i80 WD released(as it also didn't have any indication that you could unlock anything by the NPC), it's like they don't want us to play their pvp content...