Rolling Need For Gear You Have No Use For

So maybe I'm just missing something, but I've seen an increase in dungeons and especially ST of people rolling Need on gear they have absolutely no use for. When you have a piece of i120 gear in the slot why are you rolling need for that piece of i100 gear? Sure, you can turn them in for GC seals, but that's a pretty weak reason. Glamour maybe, but I've seen it on belts as well, so that doesn't completely explain it.

I know the entire incentive for me to run ST at this point is to get gear for secondary classes (WHM is my main and I'm well past the gear that drops), but that's becoming harder to do when people just roll need on everything that drops now. Now sure, I could take those jobs in there and roll need as well, but I'd rather have better gear for them first.

So is this just bad etiquette and people are being selfish or is there some legitimate reason for lotting Need on this stuff?

People have their relic and we need it to turn in for company seal so you can need them for that very reason.

This is an old debate, but it's usually just poor etiquette.

If people in the party are obviously in need of the equipment, especially if they politely request it, I won't contest or override the roll.

On the other hand, gear from ST is so far behind the curve now that no one actually "needs" it at all except for vanity or extra seals .

Yeah. 80,000 seals needs to come from somewhere. Since people are grinding dungeons, turning this gear in is the most logical.

If you want a specific set, go in as that class. Or ask nicely and maybe they will pass.

The game is designed so players can NEED roll on loot for the class they are playing. Like you said, there are many reasons for a player rolling NEED, such as GC seal turn ins (zodiac relic players need those), and glamour. There is no looting etiquette, especially in end game dungeons like ST. Do the content on the class you want to gear if you want the loot so bad.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Glamour, desynthesis, turn in for GC seals, level capped areas, everyone else rolling need on everything means I have to roll need to get anything

So just for seals? The things you get from just about every single thing you do in the game pretty much? It's a reason I guess.

EDIT: OK, I guess there are a few other reasons, I'd still put them below taking gear that others could use. And really, who would want to glamour ST gear? The game is designed to roll need for items you actually need, so players running content can get the gear they need to progress. This falls apart a bit when you're doing content past what your current class actually does need.

As for there being no etiquette, that's no way for a community to treat one another.

Gorvi, I don't want to defend this, but the ones with the GC seal reason are most likely the ones that did their relic harassment quest, they had to farm fates over, and over, and over...


.... and over.... and over... and over... and... you get it :P

I NEED on everything now, having to come up with more then 240k in GC seals (thats 3 Zodiac weapons). I need all the loot drops from Dfs/CT. Sorry to leveling players but hey gotta feed the need for shiny new weapons! Say, can ST gear be turned in for Seals?

Complete two Zodiac weapons requiring a total of 160,000 GC seals, and then come talk to me.

If you want or need a particular piece so bad from a dungeon, speak up. I'm sure most people would pass if they knew you specifically needed it. If you're completely silent and say nothing, then don't get mad when people need on items for the job they're playing.