SE Lies Again

SE Lies Again - But your too blind to see it.

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Physical prizes and gifts are great, but one of the biggest giveaways for attendees is the Fan Festival 2014 in-game item! Each attendee will come away with a special in-game item designed for the hardcore collector. However, players who purchase tickets but don’t attend the event are ineligible to receive this special gift, so be sure to join the festivities and collect your prize!

We’re excited to show the full details on this coveted piece of loot: Moogle Attire!

Word for word from the Fan Fest site.

And now this:

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Las Vegas Fan Festival premium live stream features:
Price to be announced
HD resolution
Includes the opening keynote by Producer/Director Naoki Yoshida
Includes the closing ceremonies event
A code for the Moogle Attire bonus item
URL to be announced

And before you post something ridiculous like:

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If you wanted to spend all that money exclusively on the moogle outfit, frankly that's just wasteful. The money you spend on the fanfest is to go to the event and enjoy all the things they have planned for you.

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If you paid $120 for a Digital Moogle Suit alone, I feel bad for you.

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So essentially this thread is crying about not being able to be a special snowflake in an MMO.

Save my time and yours and move on to the next thread.

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Originally Posted by Ramen

I wasn't upset about this live stream. just wish I knew this before I purchase my physical tickets.

This is what I'm "tiny" upset about.
I'm going to be standing in line for hours (to register and to play "in-game activities"),

drive 8 hours, take days off,

spent $$$ on hotels (good thing it's cheap tho), I don't really drink nor gamble. I go to vegas just for this.

seeing other ppl's head while live letter... and can't see anything while Yoshi: "watch this top secret drawing"....

I kinda rather to stay at home and watch live stream and skip the part I don't really care. there are 6 hours nothing to do between live letter (end at 3pm) to seem to be exciting closing ceremony (8pm). Rio is not at a convenient location that you have to drive to main street and everyone knows the traffic sux...

We better get some super good physical gifts!

"Physical prizes and gifts are great, but one of the biggest giveaways for attendees is the Fan Festival 2014 in-game item!"

I hope your right...cause the Moogle suit sure doesn't mean anything anymore. Special? HA coveted? LOL

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Originally Posted by Dree-Elle

What I take from the OP:
WAAAAAH! WAAAAAH! I CAN'T HAVE AN ITEM THAT NONE OF YOU PENNILESS PLEBS OR CONSOLE SCRUBS CAN EVER OBTAIN! S-E IS LYING! THE SKY IS FALLING! MY E-PEEN IS SHRINKING! I HATE YOU ALLLLLLL!
Tell me if I'm too far off-base with this assessment... *insert popcorn .gif*

What you get when you make posts like that: Reported for harassment. Grow up buddy.

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Honestly speaking this a good thing. Not everyone could go to a Fan-Fest even if they could afford to go or were nearby purely because tickets sell out. So naturally, the majority of fans were upset that they couldnt atleast get the item from FanFest. This being said, Why is that you people fume when you dont get something and fume again when you do!???? Get over it and grow up

Thank you SE for the chance at this item. Even if they did change stuff (which is always subject to change at developer discretion anyways) I feel sorry that SE has to put up with these kinds of "fans".

What do you mean: "you people"? I'm kidding.

Seriously people I don't care about the friggin item. It has nothing to do with this except that fact that it happens to be the latest 'item x' that se is messing up on. They need to start CLEARLY and PRECISELY stating exactly what they mean and then sticking to it.

Fan Fest 2006: Chocobo Wand. not available again until 1 year later through the adveturer appreciation campaign
Fan Fest 2007: Nomad Cap. (I went to this one) not available ever again (special and coveted)
Fan Fest 2008: Nomad Moogle Shield. not available ever again (special and coveted)
Fan Fest 2014: Moogle Attire. Originally only given to attendees. Now able to be purchased by buying the livestream. (not special or coveted) it's not 'one of the biggest giveaways for attendees is the Fan Festival 2014 in-game item' if anyone anywhere in the world can pay a fee and get one.

It's like with player housing...yoshi specifically stated that player housing was going to be significantly less then and seperate from FC housing. all they did was make fc house purchasable by individual players at same price as fc. did i complain? heck yeah. then dropped 19 mil on a medium house day 1.

If they had said in the first place that player housing would be expensive, or better yet: kept their mouth shut and not spit out numbers like 800k, I would have never had a problem. If they said the moogle attire was just gonna be some free ingame item that anyone and their uncle can get, i would have been happy to get one but not cared if they sold it to everyone. So if you stop and thin for even a second you'll realize I have an issue with how SE operates. I could care less about the item, or the house price, or whatever fiasco they come up with next. They need to operate in a more professional manner.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

I understand that your angry and disappointed at Square Enix, but you need to understand that what Square Enix is doing is good for the whole fanbase. I dont live in England nor in USA, even tho I do have the money for the live event, I can not go there, because of extra cost: plane ticket + accommodation. I am a student so I can not fly to another country and miss my classes, not with exams comming soon at the end of October. I reckon alot of players are in my shoes and are very happy to enjoy the live stream + a reward, because lets be honest the Moogle outfit is a incentive to buy the live stream.

Personaly I will wait first and see how much the live stream willl cost, if its less then 30 euro, then I will fork over.

Firs off let me say that I appreciate your discussing this in a civil manner and making your point clear without resorting to the typical internet facerolling replies. I agree that offering an incentive to the live stream is beneficial to SE and to the players that decide to pay for the non free version. HOWEVER. They could have easily offered something else. Like for example: a free fantasia, or another item of somekind, or anything but the moogle attire. Or heck they could have just let the stream be free and never mentioned a paid version.

You sound quite angry.

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Originally Posted by ZReport

You sound quite angry.

Mildly. Lying to your player-base is a bad habit to pick up. First player housing. Now this. What's next?

That's not a lie lmao. That is stating people can't purchase a PHYSICAL ticket and get the item without going. Doubtless to ensure that people who want to physically go can't lose out to someone who just wants the moogle. The livestream service is not a physical ticket. These two facts are not mutually exclusive and you're just looking for a fight. Cheers.

Changing their mind is not the same as lying, if that is what happened.
If they did lie, well the truth is better than the lie in this case, and the moogle costume is not going to be incentive for most people to go to the event, so it is a weird lie.

and that text you quoted says that buying the ticket without showing up will not get you the outfit, which is true

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Originally Posted by subteraneanbird

That's not a lie lmao. That is stating people can't purchase a PHYSICAL ticket and get the item without going. Doubtless to ensure that people who want to physically go can't lose out to someone who just wants the moogle. The livestream service is not a physical ticket. These two facts are not mutually exclusive and you're just looking for a fight. Cheers.

It's hypocritical. You can't buy a 120 ticket and not receive a moogle item, but you can buy a live stream pass and receive a moogle item.

It's not special and coveted if anyone can buy it. It's a cheap scheme to get some fast cash from the community at the cost of exclusivity of the in-game item.

They wouldn't sell crap for live-stream if they didn't include it and they know it.

It's not hypocritical either. That word doesn't even begin to apply to this situation. You aren't really firing on all cylinders here are you?

So if someone buys a ticket to the fest and cant make it you think its ok for them to not get a moogle attire item? However, someone else can buy the livestream, not watch it, and go right on laughing at the other guy.

And keep the personal comments out of it. If you want to talk about the subject thats fine. Insult me and I will report you for harrassment.

You are allowed to dislike their decision, but there is no lying in the text you quoted

It explicitly states that event attendance is required.

It is another lie, plain & simple.

Just sad.