Wondering if the order of jobs from most dps to least dps is still the same or not.

Heya I was just wondering if the order of most to least dps is still Mnk > Drg >= Smn > Blm > Brd in terms of overall content or has it changed since 2.3?

I ask cause I keep hearing conflicting reports of Blm and Smn doing more dps than the other and vice versa and even some reports of Blm being top dps class and just wanted to ask to make sure or not. >.<

The answer has, as it always has been, it depends.

The longer a fight goes on with high uptime, the better Monk and Summoner become. If AOE is the object, Black Mages just win. If Black Mages can just stand there and turret, they do well. In the longest fights, Bard dips down in order to prevent everyone else from running out of resources.

There is no such thing as the absolute undisputed highest DPS class. It's all situational. For example, Monk is the best at Turn 8 DPS, but they generally lose to every ranged class in Turn 9 because they lose uptime more often. Black Mages are still undesirable in fights where they must move a lot.

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Originally Posted by Donjo

Bad Black Mages are still undesirable in fights where they must move a lot.

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Good BLMs, on the other hand, know how to move efficiently and not lose much if any time to mechanics forced upon them.

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

Good BLMs, on the other hand, know how to move efficiently and not lose much if any time to mechanics forced upon them.

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Plus, with longer fights (like T8), Summoner and Monk are dependant on songs (mana and TP) to keep up their dps. BLM's are resourceless which is a large advantage. But its the only fight where its an issue.

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Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon

Plus, with longer fights (like T9), Summoner and Monk are dependant on songs (mana and TP) to keep up their dps. BLM's are resourceless which is a large advantage. But its the only fight where its an issue.

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I've never heard of Summoner's having Mana issues/Monks having TP issues on T9? Do you mean T8?

I do agree that a decent BLM wont lose much dps to movement heavy fights. xD But overall I would say we are middle of the pack when it comes to DPS Potential.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

I've never heard of Summoner's having Mana issues/Monks having TP issues on T9? Do you mean T8?

I do agree that a decent BLM wont lose much dps to movement heavy fights. xD But overall I would say we are middle of the pack when it comes to DPS Potential.

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Yeah, that. I fixed my post!

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Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon

Yeah, that. I fixed my post!

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Ah xD

T8, as far as I know (perfect) :

Mnk (490~500 )
BLM (480 (saw it))
BRD (440 ~ 450 (drg buff))
DRG ?
SMN ?
BRD (400 (raw))

I do not know the hightest dps ever put by smn // drg for t8 so... (i saw like 420 for each, but not more)

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Originally Posted by Ejell

T8, as far as I know (perfect) :

Mnk (490~500 )
BLM (480 (saw it))
BRD (440 ~ 450 (drg buff))
DRG ?
SMN ?
BRD (400 (raw))

I do not know the hightest dps ever put by smn // drg for t8 so... (i saw like 420 for each, but not more)

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I would say:

MNK
SMN
BLM
DRG
BRD

Assuming a "normal" setup with 1 Bard.

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Originally Posted by Ejell

T8, as far as I know (perfect) :

Mnk (490~500 )
BLM (480 (saw it))
BRD (440 ~ 450 (drg buff))
DRG ?
SMN ?
BRD (400 (raw))

I do not know the hightest dps ever put by smn // drg for t8 so... (i saw like 420 for each, but not more)

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The highest I've ever got on T8 was 441. Usually I hover around 420 ~ 435 with only the foes at the beginning of the fight and MP song somewhere in there as well as doing both Towers and Mines.

Personally for something like T8, post BLM buff, it seems something like :

MNK
BLM
SMN/DRG
BRD

I can't say I've ever seen a BRD go as high as 440 in a standard 1 Bard setup due to song usage. So numbers like that have to be with two Bards in the party.


There really is no over-encompassing DPS rollout order for the entire end-game as it changes on pretty much every fight.

T9 for example, SMNs are top followed by DRG, MNK, BRD/BLM

General rules:
Fights that are long in duration, but not much movement required: BLM/MNK excells, SMN suffers, MNKs and DRG and BRD stay in a particular area of DPS. (TP /MP songs included)

Fights short in duration, not much movement: SMN/MNK/BLM/DRG->BRD


Any fights that require the least amount of movement: Monk & BLM excel above the rest on average, followed closely by DRG and SMN.

Fights that have limited uptimes (unable to target mobs or mobs moving around a lot) : SMNs usually excel above all the rest.

Fights dangerous for Melee, which may add in wait moments or downtime (Garuda EX for example): Range wins out on average due to full uptime.

DRG/SMNs generally are the most average classes in their position. In generally any fight that requires alot of movement, a DRG can beat out a MNK if due to that movement, the monk loses Greased Lightning. (T9 is a good example here.) The longer a fight is the lower a SMN goes.