PLEASE fix the credit system for hunts!

Just killed the S in Southern Thanalan. Full party, at the beginning of the pull. 30 seals. Why did I not get full credit, when I was there at the very start, in a full party? You know what? Just throw the entire credit system out the window. Get rid of it. When you have a broken system that only lets 20 (or 40, I forget the number) DoTs on at once, and mobs that pop in and out, and people resetting (either on accident or purpose), people are unfairly losing out on credit, so just get rid of the entire system altogether.

And then you'd have people hitting the mark once, leaving, having fewer people to actually kill the thing, possibly leading to a wipe and causing nobody to get credit. No, partial credit needs to stay, and your party needs to work harder if you wanna get full credit. The 60 DoT limit, as well as the entire hunt system, wasn't meant for 300 people to come and blast one mob.

People need to stop calling things broken just because it didn't work out for them.

Not everyone is agreeing with OP.

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Originally Posted by JustPlainLucas

Just killed the S in Southern Thanalan. Full party, at the beginning of the pull. 30 seals. Why did I not get full credit, when I was there at the very start, in a full party? You know what? Just throw the entire credit system out the window. Get rid of it. When you have a broken system that only lets 20 (or 40, I forget the number) DoTs on at once, and mobs that pop in and out, and people resetting (either on accident or purpose), people are unfairly losing out on credit, so just get rid of the entire system altogether.

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60 debuffs. Not that that's really enough, but at least get your numbers right if you're gonna complain.

Also, if you cared about credit, you'd be in a party full of healers and tanks, who don't care about the debuff limit.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

60 debuffs. Not that that's really enough, but at least get your numbers right if you're gonna complain.

Also, if you cared about credit, you'd be in a party full of healers and tanks, who don't care about the debuff limit.

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This only suggests the system is even more broken that the best way to get full credit is to not bother trying to deal damage to the enemy.

More tanks and WHM, less DPS and SCH

If you're party is mostly DPS, esp ACN heavy (SCH and/or SMN), you will always get less credit on an S (even some A's).

Credit is aggro-based, so start getting people together who can generate tons (like, tanks and WHM...)

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Originally Posted by Nutz

This only suggests the system is even more broken that the best way to get full credit is to not bother trying to deal damage to the enemy.

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Except that's only "true" for a WHM, and even then the way S-ranks work its not even really (so much raid AoE damage on them, so spamming Med2 keeps most of the party up). Tanks should be in STR gear and in tank stance, trying their best to rip hate off the MT (in other words...they're doing a good amount of damage on their own. I know I can crit Butcher's Block for over 1300 hunting, and Inner Beast about the same. My Steel Cyclone can crit for over 1K too. Oh, and I'm normally MT too...)

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Originally Posted by Nutz

This only suggests the system is even more broken that the best way to get full credit is to not bother trying to deal damage to the enemy.

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It's only in keeping with credit mechanics that have been in place since launch, but sure. . .

Besides, even on healer you still have to damage it, or you aren't getting any credit.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

It's only in keeping with credit mechanics that have been in place since launch, but sure. . .

Besides, even on healer you still have to damage it, or you aren't getting any credit.

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That's true, and it's not as though I expect them to rewrite the mechanics to be 'smart', but it is a bit funny that using something like quelling strikes could only possibly hurt you with the current system, not that it should be necessary to use. The 'must deal damage or get no credit' thing is a bit odd as well for healers.

In any case I was only pointing out that the credit system is simplistic and doesn't really encourage people to fight the enemy in a serious manner, but rather to maximize threat generation (which from a gameplay standpoint only makes sense when attempting to tank) regardless of how it's done.

Hunt credit is badly designed, but I agree that whm is the best solution. By doing no damage, you also give other people time to build up aggro for full credit.

Make sure Medica 2 is up before the fight, hit the mob with stone/aero at the beginning, and spam cure 3. It's not much different than idling but ffxiv is happy with it.