Ogre's Hate - Need advice

First, take your troll posts elsewhere, I need some solid advice, not snide comments.


Now that we've got that out of the way... For those that have tanked the ogre and won the fight, what are you using to pull and keep hate? I've tried provoke, taunt, war drum, warmonger, and disorient but nothing seems to work. I've even tried Cure III/Sac III but just can't keep his attention. Clearly I am doing something wrong, but what? Any advice for a frustrated GLA?

Are your healers and DDs healing and attacking while ur trying to hold hate initially?

Heya!

Hmm... I don't know much about taking aggro, but most of the times when I tank I make sure I land the first hit, then provoke the enemy. That way I have more enmity, and I keep spamming things like Raging Strike, Cures, Buffs and also I do some Accomplice, which is always needed.
Basically, Accomplice lets you take aggro from one person and transfer it to you. So you might cast it on an Archer or Healer and be OK with it.

That's the max I can give you as an advice now. I hope you get that mofo down!
See ya!

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Originally Posted by Thanos

Are your healers and DDs healing and attacking while ur trying to hold hate initially?

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No, they have been giving me an occasional heal at the beginning though. I can generally hold hate until the ghosts drop the second time, right around then I lose hate and all hell breaks loose.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Ffirst, take your troll posts elsewhere, I need some solid advice, not snide comments.


Now that we've got that out of the way... For those that have tanked the ogre and won the fight, what are you using to pull and keep hate? I've tried provoke, taunt, war drum, warmonger, and disorient but nothing seems to work. I've even tried Cure III/Sac III but just can't keep his attention. Clearly I am doing something wrong, but what? Any advice for a frustrated GLA?

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You have to do the first phase yourself pretty much.

Don't let mages or anyone cure you until the second phase (after the ghosts have teleported) to ensure you have generated enough enmity from the ogre. Cure yourself for this first phase.

Tell your mages and DD to stop attacking if they get a yellow hate meter too. And maybe get archers to use quellings trike and mages to use chameleon. Is soughspeak good for mages? I don't know, I'm not a mage. But definitely mages need anti-enimity abilities like chameleon or soughspeak.

All those hate-generating moves you mentioned are enough to hold hate. It's just a case of making everyone else wait around occasionally. Slow and steady wins the race, or so they say.

So far the best hate holders are Cure III and sac III I believe, but what you need to make sure is that no one is attacking or healing for the first minute or so, only you heal yourself to get a hate head start. Also stress that your members use there -hate abilities and their hate transfering abilities to get more hate on you. (Lancer has colusion that transfers all hate from next attack to the target between the lancer and the lancers target) basically we have to cast it on the mob and then get behind the tank and use a weapon skill. I think Archer has a similar skill to transfer hate, also there are many traits that lower hate generation as well.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

Heya!

Hmm... I don't know much about taking aggro, but most of the times when I tank I make sure I land the first hit, then provoke the enemy. That way I have more enmity, and I keep spamming things like Raging Strike, Cures, Buffs and also I do some Accomplice, which is always needed.
Basically, Accomplice lets you take aggro from one person and transfer it to you. So you might cast it on an Archer or Healer and be OK with it.

That's the max I can give you as an advice now. I hope you get that mofo down!
See ya!

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do you use accomplice on just a random arc? I've never used it before so some specifics would help.

Also... it's a good idea to get several mages to take turns healing so they dont draw too much hate individually, but I guess most people do this already.

Never needed to use accomplice and our mages do heal the tank during the first phase as well. Archers go all out, if I'm rolling as Archer I'm always between green and yellow threat.

Doing damage and healing HP are the biggest hate factors atm. As a tank use all of you attacks, save tp to participate in BRs, and use only cure/sacrifice IIIs. If you're having MP management issues bring some ethers and have stygian spikes up.

Accomplice anyone that draws the most hate.. mainly the healers

If your DDs has accomplice have them consistantly accomplice the healers and u accomplice them.. since the DDs are closer to you


That should work...