People not even trying on primals

This is a rant, so please take it for what it is and feel free to express your own thoughts on it.

I have been having the most difficult time getting a win on EX primals other than Garuda, because be it DF or PF as soon as the party wipes more than once, people start leaving. This quitter perspective makes it very hard for people who are new to these fights actually learn them. Sure we can watch videos, but it isn't the same as being in the fight. The reason it makes it so hard when groups keep disbanding, is because when you look for another party, you run the risk (and a likely risk at that.) of wiping at the same spot if not sooner in the fight and then rinse and repeat. I understand that some groups have no hope with their current set up and leaving is fine under those conditions, but leaving after the group shows significant improvement their second or third try is what bugs me. I feel like learners are getting cut off right before it clicks for them when this happens.

Problem is all the people who know the fights 100% have moved on to other things.

Even when the fights were first out you had to fight through several parties of ragequitters until you found 1 party that stuck together for a win. This is much easier with PF and DF since you can get people you know on the server to help that know the fight (unless you have no friends), with DF you have no clue of peoples experience.

Funny thing, after posting this, I finally found a group that stuck with Moogle EX until completion. I also won the acc. :D We died alot but everyone was very patient and kept at it. I now have a FULL understanding of the fight. My faith in the community is also restored. Thank you team for proving me wrong. :)

Also that behemoth gif is epic! XD

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Originally Posted by wicked-one

As I am doing Roulette almost every day as Tank, I still see people not capable to avoid plumes on Titan HM where the Timer is so forgiving... luckily you have a good healer and dps most of the time to get it done by 3 people left... ^^

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lol that never gets old seeing it's kinda funny while tanking it and seeing 3-4 die to plumes or get landslided. But with how much time you get to dodge them it's just funny and a bit sad, sadly it's usually a SMN or blm that gets plumed cause they decide I gotta finish casting then move lol or my fav the infamous loldrg getting landslided with a poorly timed jump.

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Originally Posted by wicked-one

As I am doing Roulette almost every day as Tank, I still see people not capable to avoid plumes on Titan HM where the Timer is so forgiving... luckily you have a good healer and dps most of the time to get it done by 3 people left... ^^

I see only two possibilitys, both not great for someones confidence... buy a carry, or get carried by your FC...

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I do the same ^^
The fights are funny if people at least survive long enough to get through heart phase.

However. Buying a carry is not the best advice becaus the player won't learn the fight and will have problems in what's comming after it, be it Coil or EX primals.
Getting a good FC which is willing to help (I've heard of many FCs who dont help their own newbies with these fights) is the best thing to do.
Or you keep going at it with DF and PF till you get it done, which will probably give you the best training for the following content.

This isn't a new problem. "Back in the day" before X Primals, Titan HM had the whole quitting in 2 mintues thing going all the time, too. Seems a lot of people just want to win on one try. The only way to do it is to just keep at it, keep at it, keep at it. Eventually you'll get enough experience to have your part nailed down, then it's just a matter of time before getting enough others to help you. It may be a long process, but eventually you WILL win.

And once you do get to that point, it's also a good idea to jump into whatever parties are recruiting for these duties when you're not doing anything (like standing around Revenant's Toll emoting), to help the next crop of players learn and win. This increases the talent pool for higher-level content. The more players you help get to your level, the more potential teammates you get for making parties for Coil and whatnot.