Range DPS Queue Time

So, melee DPS get this really small wait time compared to range DPS. Why? On a EX primal like Leviathan you need AOE LB but BLM/SMN have a really long wait queue for roulette (especially when Levi EX comes out on trial roulette).

A lot of the time melee DPS are paired up with all melee DPS and ranged DPS can be paired with all ranged.

Why isn't the queue system treating it all fairly? I have SMN and BRD 50, I haven't levelled DRG or MNK my main is WHM (working on my relic quest too, myth grind). It takes a fair bit of time to level a whole new character just so I can get a decent queue time for DPS...

The system tries to match an even number of ranged and melee. There are more ranged dps classes than melee classes, in addition to melee being less popular overall. Just wait until Ninja is released, then we'll have to wait as long as you guys do.

Is it really broken down that way for sure? I haven't seen a dev/mod response about queue times being different for melee and ranged but I suppose it could be true. I know I get quite a few match ups with either two ranged or two melee which can be a pain (atleast with limit breaks).

I regularly queue as ranged or melee and don't really see a difference but maybe I don't think about it enough to notice. Both are pretty quick these days. I remember dps queues in general taking like 30min to a hour before. Most of the time I wait 5minutes now and maybe 15 at the most on any dps job.

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Is it really broken down that way for sure? I haven't seen a dev/mod response about queue times being different for melee and ranged but I suppose it could be true. I know I get quite a few match ups with either two ranged or two melee which can be a pain (atleast with limit breaks).

I regularly queue as ranged or melee and don't really see a difference but maybe I don't think about it enough to notice. Both are pretty quick these days. I remember dps queues in general taking like 30min to a hour before. Most of the time I wait 5minutes now and maybe 15 at the most on any dps job.

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Most of the time I queue with my bf on his DRG, his estimated wait time is 15 minutes, mine on SMN is over 30 minutes >.>...

for multiple reasons :

melee/ranged ratio 1/1 for 4 man , 2/2 for 8 man , in order to avoid being unfair to melee

Limit break

Loot

+ bonus stats (every job buffs the party)


but the way DF forms party is

LF 1 tank > not avaliable? > Wait
LF 1 healer> not avaliable? > Wait
LF 1 melee > not avaliable > LF1 ranged >
LF 1 ranged > form party



the issue at hand is that the DF keeps looking for melee while waiting , if u have a party forming thats missing a tank , and there are 0 tank , 1 heal, 4 ranged ,waiting then a melee joins DF ,u keep waiting for tank , tank joins DF >

DF will take the tank , the 1 healer on queue , the 1 melee ,and 1 ranged....unfair because the 2nd ranged never gets the 2nd dps spot even if was waiting way before the melee joins the DF queue

thats my guess , but looks kinda like how DF works atm

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

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Pretty confusing but it sounds pretty accurate to how it looks. Doesn't make sense with your get two melee in one DF light party and two ranged in another (my bf and I had this >.>, I was paired with a BLM as SMN and he was paired with another DRG).

when u are paired with 2 ranged is that no melee was LFP , getting 2 melees ...... maybe there were 0 rdps lfp .... who knows :confused: :eek:

maybe DF trys to by pass the 1 melee 1 ranged req to avoid rdps waiting for hours , because melee keep joining ?

or maybe the party is forming and the tank didnt accept , melee + melee (first on line because some1 declined)

Accurate but I wouldn't say "ranged never gets the spot", from what it looks the DF will stay waiting for a melee for a while before filling the second slot with another ranged, but that wait time is not that long, same when the DF matches two melee together.

But the main problem here is melee and ranged queues being separated and it being 2 melees vs 3 ranged, even if each class had the same amount of people playing them it already means melee will have an easier time.

Things will even out (or will turn worse for melee) when rogue is out.

I've seen this go both directions and I agree something is definitely up. Sometimes at late nights (Or Aussie time in my case) you will see DPS needed in trial roulette. It can then go either way, my melee friend can get instant que and my bard/blm wait 20+ mins, or I can get instant que and melee friend is waiting 20+ mins etc.

Its pretty annoying either way to see it demanding DPS and you join up and wait as long or longer than usual.