permit FC queueing for Frontline

Let FC GC affiliation permit us to form 8 person full parties within FC under their GC banner.

Preventing us from Frontlining alongside our friends due to their GC is incredibly harmful to enjoying the game with friends.

Given the PvP Rank grind, to ask us to begin again at square one just to Frontline with friends is terrible, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by Parz3val

Let me put it this way, would y'all rather have the option of 'conveniently' siding (or opposing, see below) with your friends in Frontlines or not?

It's really hard for me to believe that people care more for various other reasons than having the freedom to easily play with or against their friends.


For those who would prefer to Frontline against their friends for the competitive vs. enjoyment, consider this:

Under this system, it may be just as equally inhibiting to be able to play against your friends as it is with them.


If any of you are currently aligned under the same GC, then you're just as shafted with regards to playing against one another as those who are aligned differently.

A couple of my friends are in the same GC as I, so if I want to Frontline against them, well I'm out of luck because we don't have that option without one of us switching GC's.

Oh wait! Now I'd like to ally with them again, either we wait 15 days for me to switch-back (suspending progress made) or my friend now has to switch GC's also (suspending his progress).


I just can't get past the confusion of trying to understand someone who would support such a restrictive system.

Above all else, it's merely an insane hassle/setback that I believe there is no good reason to have exist in this MMO environment.

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Originally Posted by Parz3val

My friend despises Pirates, just because I like them, should that prevent us from Frontlining together as allies? That's ridiculous! What an absurd restriction to enforce in an MMO.

It's ludicrous one of us should have to switch GC's when our PvP Exp won't transfer... idc if you're Rank 15 or Rank 40, the grind is insane, to have to shelve all that is a ludicrous prospect.

Also, GC v GC doesn't necessarily mean an FC's GC affiliation doesn't count (or shouldn't for that matter).

I'm a member of an FC that's allied with Twin Adders, I am personally aligned with the Maelstrom, aren't I *technically* enlisted in both then?

If the lore were to act as if the GC's are now in conflict over some territory, wouldn't it be just as absurd to allow us to enlist in a FC that endorses our known enemy? Yet they're not preventing us from being in any GC affiliated FC we want.

Lore-wise, it ought simply have been a bragging rights competition for the GC's to train & test their mettle against one another... that way it's justified lore-wise & makes sense.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimate3

Just out of idle curiosity. Let's say if FCs were taken into account, a scenario; I am a Adder. My Company is aligned with the Maelstrom. If I queue for Frontlines, am I an Adder or am I a Maelstrom?

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Great question!

If it's a mixed group of FC Members, FC GC Affiliation.

If it's all one or the other, whichever it is.

If everyone is both, two options for SE: either whichever queue is faster or Party Leader's personal GC Affiliation.

The Red Post I've linked below effectively affirms my feelings about FC GC Affiliation & our 'membership', if you will... our FC is a subdivision ("subsidiary") of whichever GC it has aligned with... so we're essentially a branch/squadron underneath the GC military umbrella.

If that doesn't tell me I'm a valid part of that GC just as much as the other GC I've personally enlisted in, I don't know what does.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...780#post833780

While I hate the overuse of the word "petition" in all these threads, I do agree with the message and thoroughly support this idea.

Totally disagree and dont support this petition. The devs have said from the beginning that frontlines is GC vs GC. You have had the choice and still can change to join the same company as your friends.

I basically agree, imo, the "GC" you are in for the battle should be random, and not associated with your personal GC at all. Other than the issues stated above, you always wind up getting other problems, like a general perception that one GC is better than another, and then players in the know join that GC, queue times go up, competition goes down, etc.

Fixed faction pvp is really not a good idea. I'm going to call it right now that this changes in a patch or two. Look no further to see how much this impacted WoW, most of the pvp'ers would generally be horde. Now considering how much easier it is to change factions in FF, imagine that Maelstrom started doing really well, many players will just flock over.

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Originally Posted by Ozz

Totally disagree and dont support this petition. The devs have said from the beginning that frontlines is GC vs GC. You have had the choice and still can change to join the same company as your friends.

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I'm curious why then Do Fc get grand company alliances then whats the point of them? i don't get how because we are all in the grand company it can't overide idividual process.. my friends do not wanna spam aurum vale and there ranks just to do frontlines. its stupid. It be nice if we all get 1 item that lets us reset to the GC of our choice atleast or a easyer process.

I disagree with this thread. FFXIV will put anything into their game that fans want as long as they can justify how it fits into the world. Frontlines PvP is here because the GC's have a dispute over some Allagan ruins. Wolf's Den is there for any group of anybodies to bash faces in. Frontlines will unlikely change how it operates, but we COULD try asking SE to put out something 'similar' to Frontlines that would make sense.

Example: Eorzean vs Garlean forces. 24 vs 24. Half the players are assigned to play the role of 'Garleans' trying to retake (random Castrum name).

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Originally Posted by Ozz

Totally disagree and dont support this petition. The devs have said from the beginning that frontlines is GC vs GC. You have had the choice and still can change to join the same company as your friends.

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My friend despises Pirates, just because I like them, should that prevent us from Frontlining together as allies? That's ridiculous! What an absurd restriction to enforce in an MMO.

It's ludicrous one of us should have to switch GC's when our PvP Exp won't transfer... idc if you're Rank 15 or Rank 40, the grind is insane, to have to shelve all that is a ludicrous prospect.

Also, GC v GC doesn't necessarily mean an FC's GC affiliation doesn't count (or shouldn't for that matter).

I'm a member of an FC that's allied with Twin Adders, I am personally aligned with the Maelstrom, aren't I *technically* enlisted in both then?

If the lore were to act as if the GC's are now in conflict over some territory, wouldn't it be just as absurd to allow us to enlist in a FC that endorses our known enemy? Yet they're not preventing us from being in any GC affiliated FC we want.

Lore-wise, it ought simply have been a bragging rights competition for the GC's to train & test their mettle against one another... that way it's justified lore-wise & makes sense.

As easy as it is to transfer GC and rank-up, this is seriously a non-issue.

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As easy as it is to transfer GC and rank-up, this is seriously a non-issue.

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Cause it's so easy to do that PVP Rank 40 grind over again legitimately, without win-trading, right?

I feel like most people arguing against this are the ones who haven't tried ranking up in Wolves Den whatsoever.

another one of those threads.

It was clear that choosing an GC willl mean something in the future, and that certain events will limit players from playing with each other when they are in different GC. This also existed in 1.0, i think it was chocobo caravans.

Its always cute to read "We are forced to change our GC" Nobody forces you to do anything, this game offers a lot where GC affiliation doesn't matter at all.

PVP Rank reset sucks though. Because in the Wolf's Den. I am not fighting for my GC but myself. And where is the sense in removing morale from frontlines, when the increased stats from PVP Rank still seem to apply :|