[ Devs ] Tank should be tank no DPS with shield, Provoke issue.

Because I think this title deserves devs tag in name, I am posting this.

Please think of Gladiator class as of tank, now its just mid dps with shield. Provoke doesnt work at all. I think it shouldnt be this way. When Glad uses provoke in PT, his enmity is green, nonsense if he was aimed at tank class. I dunno but I thik it worked fine before update, just now it is awfully broken. It was tank after all. Actually I had fun, etc. Before grinding. Now I dont have.

Provoke should be adjusted or improved, its not working as tank would think of it at all. You dont have to agree.

You seem to mix up things...Provoke wasn't working before(at least the way many people believed, cause it was NO FFXI PROVOKE), and NOW it is like FFXI Provoke and people thnk its broken?

Using it before was pointless, cause it didn't do anything but setting you at nr1 in the hatelist(which is pretty much obsolete since you're supposed to be nr1 from the beginning anyway)

Now it actually works like FFXIs Provoke where it generates enmity instead of putting you at nr1 in the hatelist and you think its broken?

I usually don't play that card...but L2P!

Provoke generates emnity, Taunt is snap aggro.

Gladiators are main tanks, Pugilists are spot/off tanks so this makes a lot of sense. You can sub Taunt onto your Gladiator if you have problems losing aggro. You also have other abilities both with gladiator, and that you can sub to generate aggro.

what about the cooldowns on them, dont you think their a little high and dont generate enough enmity?

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

what about the cooldowns on them, dont you think their a little high and dont generate enough enmity?

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I'm not of the opinion that taunting/provoking should be a crutch that tanks rely on as their primary tanking skill, it should be just another tool in their arsenal. Otherwise I think tanking would be pretty boring (I don't tank much in XIV these days, but that is just my opinion).

Tanking is boring if all you gotta do to keep enmity is spam taunt/provoke.

Learn to use all the aggro tools you have at your disposal. If you think you should keep hate just with provoke, quite obviously you're not cut out to tank in a game that poses any level of challenge.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Tanking is boring if all you gotta do to keep enmity is spam taunt/provoke.

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I agree, but it seems like enmity generated is lower than it was prior to the patch. So I think something is bugged. Wardrum for instance isn't nearly as effective as it used to be for some reason. But I'm sure these problems will be resolved. The cool downs aren't soo bad, but I would be happier if the enmity was slightly adjusted.

Gladiator is not a tank.

Gladiator is a solo-class with access to a wealth of abilities.

The actual tank job is yet to be introduced.

Can anyone give some tips for tanking in the r50 dungeon? I should probably practice with the enmity system outside of the dungeon instead of testing things on the ogre over and over. I'm having major issues holding hate with provoke taunt war drum warmonger cure II sacrifice II heavy slash heavy stab. I try all of these and hate is ripped off of me like they're nothing.