Renaud kiting (Turn 7)

The norm for kiteing Renauds in Turn 2 of the Second Coil of Bahamut (Turn 7) is having the Bard do it. However, my group does it differently. Please note that the idea isn't actually mine but I use it very successfully and since I cannot find anything so far on this forum, I thought I'd share.

I'm play a Smn and I actually kite the Renauds by myself. Sure it seems initially overwhelming but its very very doable. The use of ruin 2 to get tethered is easy enough, but one of the advantages we have over a bard kiting is the fact that our dots keep ticking for some time after we've shifted focus. However, out biggest advantage is tri-disaster. The advantage of tri-disaster is 2 fold. It has a bind timer of 20 seconds instead of the 12 seconds offered by shadow bind. The second is that it is an aoe. Simply put, if you use tri-disaster on a walking renaud while it's being kited and the aoe hits a frozen renaud, the damage from the aoe will kill any frozen renauds near by. This second part however, isn't much of an advantage. It's just nice to kill 2 birds with one stone.

However, because of tri-disaters cast-time, it should be precast. Also, if you are ever binding with tri-disaster, make sure you use it before cursed voice is cast. And if you end up using it after curse voice is cast, make sure you do it right after. The reason being that if your tri-disaster cast finishes after the renaud has been petrified, you will kill it, leaving you no refuge from shriek.

If you have any more questions, it will be my pleasure to answer them.

My coil group does it by Smner as well as it's much easier. BTW Miasma freezes the target in place so you dont have to tri-disaster as much.

Costs more MP than Miasma.
Longer cast time than Miasma.
Shorter effect time than Miasma.

Miasma stacks up to 100% heavy with the Renaud's innate heavy.

Tri-disaster is pointless unless you somehow missed 2 straight petrify chances on one Renaud.

My group stacks 4 Renaud and the healers are keeping them in stone. And I don't get why this is "easier", our BRD uses an off-gcd skill to get the Renaud, switch to Melusine and only bind the Renaud when a voice is casted.

See, that's what we were unsure off. We were actually going to try doing that this coming week. Tri-disaster is the reason why we never stacked 4 renauds. But since you guys say miasma works, we'll try that. RNG has been screwing us and sometimes we get a renaud popping up during shriek. This should help eliminate that.

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Originally Posted by gorezilla1

See, that's what we were unsure off. We were actually going to try doing that this coming week. Tri-disaster is the reason why we never stacked 4 renauds. But since you guys say miasma works, we'll try that. RNG has been screwing us and sometimes we get a renaud popping up during shriek. This should help eliminate that.

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Yes but you'll have to time a voice before the pop of the first set of add, a shriek (this one has not to be 100% timed) before the second set, a shriek before the final add (very important) and kill the add after the first petrification (or you'll need to have the Renaud looking at Melusine).

Stacking the Renauds makes the fight easier but forces you to be careful about timing.

So, we have no problem doing t7 normally, but let me just say: the 4 stack method is the tits. Did it just now and it is wonderful. Thanks for the suggestions guys.