Yoshi-P: Atma drop % = "it's just luck"

Confirmed:
There is no secret to increasing the atrocious, soul-sucking atma drop rates. It really is just RNG luck that wins the day.

Sad news for those who believe that farming FATEs in certain areas at certain times leads to higher drop rates.

Also, sad news for anyone like me who isn't "lucky" enough to be in a static or an endgame FC and has to depend on DF/PF to challenge LeviX and 2nd Coil for the other endgame weapons.

Personally, I got all 12 atmas for Artemis bow in about 24 hours of farming over a week. So though I guess I was one of the "lucky" ones, I won't be doing that again ever. Since there's no guarantee I'll be that lucky again. Also, standing around twiddling my thumbs for 2-3 hours for a non-soloable FATE, then losing because I was the only one there when it spawned, and having to risk that x9...
Yeeah, I guess if they apparently only intend one Animus per player they surely succeeded with me ._.; oh well

inb4 filthy casual doesn't need 1337 weponz lolz
Like absolutely everything else in a video game, it's not about need it's about greed ;)

Credit to:
Reinhart's unofficial translation of yesterday's Tokyo FATE event, Day 2
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...sle=true&pli=1

Relevant excerpt below [bold type mine]:
f; foxclon [moderator] y; yoship p; player

f; next challenger, Ixion Azunyan san
p; happy birthday
y; thank you
p; regarding atma
p; this time we have a new zodiac quest where we need get 12 atma’s to progress into the quest
p; the FATEs, I’ve spent the whole day running FATEs and haven’t gotten one
p; and I was wondering if the devs are thinking something for this
p; there has to be some secret even
y; first are you equipped with zenith
y; and you’re in the correct area?
y; ok had to ask first, it’s just luck, there are those who might get in 23hours and others who haven’t gotten, it’s really based on real luck
y; there’s some occult rumors to run FATEs with time have you tried that
p; yes, but haven’t gotten it
y; well lets talk over about your real luck later
f; were you nervous
p; yes, well it’s players against the producer, so for sure
f; challenger lost
y; I think everyone has better drop rate than us
f; thank you

ATMA weapons arent required to get instantly to make a person better, and their potential as being a great weapon isnt there yet either, don't rush your self with farming it if the luck factor isnt on your side.

that said, if you say you cant get into an FC who runs things, are you even looking for an FC? Theres plenty that clear content and accept casuals and non casuals alike. Mine for example doesn't discriminate between peoples play time or experiences. This community can get rotten but you shouldnt distrust it completely, spend time to look for a good group and you will find one.

Personally, I wouldn't take the opinion on the forums as the majority. I feel that's something a lot of people tend to do. What you generally tend to see is the vocal minority, as opposed to the lot of people who just do the content, don't mind it, and don't post anything about it on the forums. A few people in my FC were annoyed at first, but in the end everyone just finished up the Atma grind or their book grinds and went along with their business. I had my own mild annoyance at farming Atma, but I got it before long, and finishing the books just took effort since there is absolutely no RNG involved in that outside of FATE pops. Finished my Animus a few weeks back and I've just been eagerly waiting for the next section of the questline.

The thing is, if they nerf it, people will cry for another long-drawn out quest chain to get an awesome weapon, and when they get it, the vocal minority will cry again that it's too hard to get because of RNG/mechanics/etc. It's a very, very visible pattern in MMOs these days. Neither side can ever really win without the opposite complaining. I'm not saying the people who want it nerfed are wrong, but I personally feel as though it's fine the way it is.

But rng is unfair and we all know it is. It isn't a boss mechanic we can observe and learn from it. The fate of our atmas solely rely on the game itself and not us.
The game can just screw someone over and decide to just "never" allow them to get any drops because it just chooses to do so, it's very possible because it's rng.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

But rng is unfair and we all know it is. It isn't a boss mechanic we can observe and learn from it. The fate of our atmas solely rely on the game itself and not us.
The game can just screw someone over and decide to just "never" allow them to get any drops because it just chooses to do so, it's very possible because it's rng.

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Fairness has nothing to do with randomness... Everyone involved in the fate has the same chance to get the atma, how can it be more fair?

It really is luck.

On my first attempt to get an ATMA in Western Thanalan, I got my ATMA..

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

But rng is unfair and we all know it is. It isn't a boss mechanic we can observe and learn from it. The fate of our atmas solely rely on the game itself and not us.
The game can just screw someone over and decide to just "never" allow them to get any drops because it just chooses to do so, it's very possible because it's rng.

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How is it unfair, every one has the same drop rate. If you're lucky then good for you. If not keep trying.

If I were to say get one every 2 fates consistantly and others still needed 100 each, then you have an issue of fairness, but that simply wont happen

Unfair or not, you remember 1.x?
If it was such a great idea with all that RNG in this game, you know... we havnt had many players!

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

Unfair or not, you remember 1.x?
If it was such a great idea with all that RNG in this game, you know... we havnt had many players!

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You know that players came back after the RNG (Ifrit fight drop and every endgame content drop after it) was put into the game?

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Originally Posted by muwa

Fairness has nothing to do with randomness... Everyone involved in the fate has the same chance to get the atma, how can it be more fair?

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Easy, by everyone having the same chance to get the atma and require the same amount of work. :P Double fair!