There needs to be some adjustments to the amount of PvP exp and Wolf Marks earned

The new PvP armor looks cool and all but it just takes way too much PvP exp and Wolf Marks to earn.

On average the queue for a match is around 10-15 min, sometimes as long as 20+ min. You only get like 20 exp if you lose, or 40-60 if you win. Thus taking ages to earn any armor or increase your rank. With how long the queues are I think the amount of exp and marks earned should be multiplied by 10x or so.

Is this a legitimate complaint, or someone who is just mad they can't get cool PVP armor faster just to use for a glamor?

Do you even do PvP ? The queues are so long that it probably would take about a year of doing it to even get the armor. If they were instant like other mmos with pvp this wouldn't be a problem but 20 min for the possibility of getting like 16 exp is not very good.

Best in slot gear takes time and effort to obtain, in related news the ocean is wet.

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Originally Posted by Fluttersnipe

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No I don't do PVP anymore, but I used to do it quite a bit, and it took a LONG bloody time to get the best gear, even mid rate arena gear in warcraft took at least a month to get fully geared in.

Frontlines is supposed to come out in 2.3 . I'm sure it will be much easier to earn XP and marks then. But yeah, I feel you on this. I love PVP but in this game the time you sit waiting in Q vs the rewards are not worth it to me. Not to mention I've always hated arena style pvp.

It is a legitimate complaint if you do much PvP.

It's not about not being willing to PvP for the armor, it just takes SO LONG waiting for a match. So getting a higher pvp rank is just tedious waiting game until you can finally get in a match and murder people.

More exp and marks or a better matchmaking system is needed.

A band-aid like this isn't a solution to the underlying problem, which is that very few people PvP in the first place because the current setup is a bit crap. Simply buffing rates by 10x will make the grind shorter, sure, but it won't change the fact that we'll still have nothing but stale 4v4 deathmatch on a single map with very strict composition restrictions, a fragmented playerbase, horrendous gearing/rank imbalance, and a poorly designed PvP actions system.

They need to fix those problems first, instead of leaving in the half-assed system we have now. Maybe 2.3 with its upcoming Frontlines system and more PvP adjustments (since apparently on the live stream they said PvP actions would be revamped in 2.3?) things will get better.

Zumi is right it takes a long time to queue. PvP in this game sucks. I tried it when it first came out was crap. Tried it yesterday still sucks.


I don't know if its just me, but I don't like not being able to know which class is which. Sometimes it gets crazy, Depending on the race it is pretty easy to spot the melee/tanks. I don't like the way sleep is handled, Yes I know that you can get resist materia for PvP gear. But I still don't think someone should be able to sleep you over and over and over...... I don't like Eos, Like once it is down they should not be able to summon it again for the battle. SCHs are so much harder to kill than WHMs (because of Eos), I also feel like it is an unfair advantage to basically have a back up healer. Raise, I really don't think raise should be allowed in PvP.