What will become of the "Alternate" basic physical attacks?

With the implementation of auto-attack imminent, I still have some questions left unanswered, the biggest one being what I outlined in the title. When the new battle system is implemented, will we still have the option to utilize skills such as Full Thrust, Pierce, Flurry, Heavy Slash, etc? I for one find them to be an integral part of strategy in both solo and party play, and would be sad to see them go. However, I also cannot think of a good way to adjust them for use with the new battle system. Will they possibly have a small recast timer or TP cost? And if they are scrapped completely, will we receive a refund of guild marks spent to purchase them (I believe Yoshi-P mentioned something like that in a post recently)? Here's to hoping this thread will garner enough attention for a community rep comment. And if this has been already answered somewhere, forgive me ^^;;

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...50c372373a87e4

Although you bring up some good questions I am really surprised to see no discussions of weapon delay/damage, which will have large impact on best weapons/classes etc.

The strategy for me with these skills was always when to use them in lieu of a standard attack. With timers getting added to them, it seems it'll be more like choosing to use them in lieu of another action - of which almost all of them are more useful than a slightly varied version of an attack you're already doing automatically. The only advantage these skills will have is that they don't cost any extra points to equip on your action bar and don't require TP.

I'd like hearing about weapon delay also. It could make some of the existing weapons significantly better or worse than they currently are now.

@Zhinse Thanks, I must've missed that post somehow.

Also, to the people mentioning weapon delay, it's mentioned in that same link Zhinse posted.

Weapon delay and damage rebalancing is precisely why making the jump to auto attack is an endeavor. I imagine once they implemented basic auto attack, some monsters that were at or even below your level weren't killable anymore or some monsters became too easy. Of course once 1.18 actually releases the players will find holes in the balancing that the QA team never even thought of.

Question. Does stamina recharge at the same rate across classes for light strike? With introduction of auto-attack, and then delay/weapon damage, will also make stats like ACC more important for high delay classes (presumably MRD and LNC) and crit/attack more useful for low delay classes (PUG), a la FFXI. Definitely will have impact on what weapons are best. Going to be interesting to see how it shakes out.

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

Question. Does stamina recharge at the same rate across classes for light strike? With introduction of auto-attack, and then delay/weapon damage, will also make stats like ACC more important for high delay classes (presumably MRD and LNC) and crit/attack more useful for low delay classes (PUG), a la FFXI. Definitely will have impact on what weapons are best. Going to be interesting to see how it shakes out.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...I-(06-14-2011)

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•The stamina gauge will be abolished with the introduction of auto-attack.

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Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...I-(06-14-2011)

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I meant currently.

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

I meant currently.

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I see ^^

Then I do believe the stamina recharges at the same rate for every classes.