New Class/Job Suggestion List -- Please Critique

FFXIV:ARR SUGGESTED JOBS


DISCLAIMER1: I designed this with how I believe these Classes/Jobs 'should' be implemented (not necessarily how they will be, e.g. no Corsair/Thief)
DISCLAIMER2: all Job prerequisites & Cross-Classes are equally represented


Archer (ARC)
Musketeer – MSK (30 ARC, 15 SBL), X-Class = THM, #supportdps #ranged #hybrid #debuffer #dex
Bard – BRD (30 ARC, 15 PGL), X-Class = LNC, #supportdps #ranged #physical #buffer

Gladiator (GLD)
Mystic Knight – MYK (30 GLD, 15 ACN), X-Class = SBL, #tank #melee #hybrid #buffer #debuffer #str/pie*
Paladin – PLD (30 GLD, 15 CNJ), X-Class = MRD, #tank #melee #physical #buffer

Lancer (LNC)
Soldier – SLD (30 LNC, 15 GLD), X-Class = ARC, #dps #melee/ranged #physical #str/dex*
Dragoon – DRG (30 LNC, 15 MRD), X-Class = PGL

Marauder (MRD)
Dark Knight – DRK (30 MRD, 15 LNC), X-Class = SBL, #dps #melee #hybrid #str/int*
Warrior – WAR (30 MRD, 15 GLD), X-Class = PGL

Pugilist (PGL)
Ninja – NJA (30 PGL, 15 ARC), X-Class = MRD, #dps #melee #physical #str/skillspeed
Monk – MNK (30 PGL, 15 LNC), X-Class = GLD

Arcanist (ACN)
Summoner – SMN (30 ACN, 15 THM), , X-Class = ARC
Scholar – SCH (30 ACN, 15 CNJ) , X-Class = THM

Conjurer (CNJ)
Time Mage – TMM (30 CNJ, 15 THM), X-Class = SBL, #healer #ranged #magical #buffer #int/skillspeed
White Mage – WHM (30 CNJ, 15 ACN), X-Class = THM

Thaumaturge (THM)
Red Mage – RDM (30 THM, 15 SBL), X-Class = ACN, #supportdps #melee/ranged #hybrid #debuffer #str/int*
Black Mage – BLM (30 THM, 15 ARC), X-Class = ACN

Spellblade (SBL)
Blue Mage – BLU (30 SBL, 15 PGL), X-Class = CNJ, #supportdps #melee #hybrid #buffer #str/mind*
Samurai – SMR (30 SBL, 15 MRD), X-Class = LNC, #tank #melee #physical #str/parry


*features unique stat-scaling (e.g. strength increased by 30% of intelligence, etc.)

Musketeer is supposed to be a class not a job last I checked.

Tbh, they should just get rid of the class/job system and just have a flat class type system. All classes should be equally playable, more choices are available to people and the notion of "classes are always weaker than jobs" will fly through the window. Future classes can also be easily implemented because there would not be any 2nd class prerequisites.

Gladiator and Paladin are both tanks for example. But Gladiator tanks focus more on the physical side and Paladin tanks combine magical attributes and the like.
Arcanists can focus on the dots. And summoners can actually be summoners.
Lancers can focus on the art of the spear. Dragoons can utilize spears but not as well as Lancers but they can use tamed abilities like Lightning breath.
Pugilists can be the melee that focuses on enhancing their strength and sharpness. Monks can be masters of human body and can perform intricate but deadly abilties.
So on, and so on.

As it stands now, when you get to a job, the classes are forgotten. Shame that those classes are badasses on previous FF series like Gladiator in Tactics advance, one my favourite to play with their elemental blades and the like. But somehow, they managed to turn them to tanks!

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Originally Posted by Bloodclaw

Musketeer is supposed to be a class not a job last I checked.

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Read Disclaimer 1 please.

For more context, I cut out Corsair/Thief as from a design perspective... they would seem to be too redundant and unnecessary.

Just as a Marauder might find favor with a Great Sword & forsake it's axe... I figure so too could a Pugilist or an Archer exchange arms.

Spellblade, in my opinion, is far more suitable to the game in terms of cross-classing & opening up meaningful job paths.

...Why is Red Mage coming from Thaumaturge? Since when did Samurai have anything at all to do with magic, even sword magic? Musketeers use pistols, not bows. Lolsoldier. Dark Knight should really go to Gladiator, give it a DPS option. Marauder could get something like Viking instead for its DPS option. Conjuror should really get Geomancer rather than Time Mage, which should go to Thaumaturge.

I do like the idea of Ninja coming out of Pugilist, though.

Soldier with a spear ? Even with disclaimer #1, I can't agree. I love their little swords and their rock throws

Right here's mine judging from what we've already seen in 1.0 and 2.2 through speculation.

Assassin
Ninja - Damage dealer using critical hits and backstabs to inflict damage with some spell-like abilities.
Thief - Damage dealer with quick agility who can shift enmity around and cause more damage working with party members (FFXI example).

Marauder
Warrior - tanky tanktank
Beastmaster - Damage dealer who fights alongside beasts to deal damage. These pets are tamed in the open-world and then summoned later into battle. The role of the "pet" during a fight depends on the type of beast tamed. The pet's moveset can be based off the moveset that the monster originally had when fighting it normally. [In case you're wondering, Beastmaster was alluded to back in 1.0. There exists a group of women in Ishgard who have the ability to tame wild beasts.]

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Originally Posted by DarkStar

...Why is Red Mage coming from Thaumaturge? Since when did Samurai have anything at all to do with magic, even sword magic? Musketeers use pistols, not bows. Lolsoldier. Dark Knight should really go to Gladiator, give it a DPS option. Marauder could get something like Viking instead for its DPS option. Conjuror should really get Geomancer rather than Time Mage, which should go to Thaumaturge.

I do like the idea of Ninja coming out of Pugilist, though.

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About right on all accounts. Its nice to dream something, but some things are just not going to happen.

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Originally Posted by DarkStar

...Why is Red Mage coming from Thaumaturge? Since when did Samurai have anything at all to do with magic, even sword magic? Musketeers use pistols, not bows. Lolsoldier. Dark Knight should really go to Gladiator, give it a DPS option. Marauder could get something like Viking instead for its DPS option. Conjuror should really get Geomancer rather than Time Mage, which should go to Thaumaturge.

I do like the idea of Ninja coming out of Pugilist, though.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

Soldier with a spear ? Even with disclaimer #1, I can't agree. I love their little swords and their rock throws

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Originally Posted by Bloodclaw

About right on all accounts. Its nice to dream something, but some things are just not going to happen.

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For more context, I cut out Corsair/Thief as from a design perspective... they would seem to be too redundant and unnecessary.

Just as a Marauder might find favor with a Great Sword & forsake it's axe... I figure so too could a Pugilist or an Archer exchange arms.

Spellblade, in my opinion, is far more suitable to the game in terms of cross-classing & opening up meaningful job paths.

How can you like Ninja coming out of Pugilist if PGL doesn't use daggers but criticize a weapon switch for ARC->MSK & so forth. P.S. I didn't mention it but Soldier would use a Gunblade.

Let me give better descriptions...

For Samurai - http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Samurai_(Tactics)

For Dark Knight, why can’t a Marauder choose to wield a different heavy blade & gain some magical prowess… and Dark Knight should NOT go to Gladiator, it’s not a sword-and-board Job, ever.

For Soldier, they are often depicted as highly acrobat, it’s a literal part of their fighting style so they most naturally come from Dragoon if they’re to be in the game at all (which I think this game deserves a Gunblade class). It’s a small stretch ultimately.

For Conjurer/Time Mage… that’s your opinion & that’s cool, but telling me their ‘should’ in regard to my rendition… that’s just pompous, haha sorry man.