There have been many discussions regarding the crafting system in FFXIV - there are people who are fond of the current on-hands system and also people that would much prefer a more automated system.
Why can't we have both?
The idea I would like to propose would be very simple and easy to incorporate into the current system, but would make a sufficient change to satisfy both parties in my opinion. So here goes:
There should be 2 choices on the synthesis menu: manual and auto. These can replace the main hand and off hand choices on the synthesis menu UI, effectively moving that decision to a following sub-menu.
Manual synthesis would be exactly how the current synthesis system is with no changes proposed in this regard.
Auto synthesis would have your character automatically craft the proposed recipe to completion. However, this option would only be available if the proposed recipe is at or below your rank and you satisfy the support & training conditions. Provided that all conditions are met, auto-synthesis would slowly complete the synthesis still on a step-by-step basis, unlike a Hasty Hand, but would also have a 100% success rate. As a counter measure though, using auto-synthesis will never produce HQ results.
The idea is, why should one have to worry about the intricate details of the synthesis process for a recipe they have the skills to complete (rank, training, support) unless they are concerned with its quality (HQ)?
Therefore when attempting a recipe above one's rank, or when trying to HQ something one would still resort to manual synthesis, thus employing player skill in obtaining such achievements. However for repetitive synthesis of easy recipes for which one doesn't care for having a high quality result I feel this option would remove a lot of the dull nature of crafting. Not to mention such a controlled automated system could very well prevent crafters from feeling compelled to make use of a bot.
I look forward to any opinions and constructive criticisms the community has to offer, and hope a community rep will see this.
Thank you all for taking the time to read my random idea!
Auto-Synthesis Option
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07-13-2011, 07:43 AMNoctisUmbraAuto-Synthesis Option
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07-13-2011, 10:46 AMTheVedis
At or below your ank? yeah thats a bit too "generous"
lets go wioth "if the recipe no longer gives you skill points" you can auto synth it, to NQ only -
07-13-2011, 10:55 AMNoctisUmbraThat's useless. There's Hasty Hand for that, which not only does it instantly but can give HQ results as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVedis
...but you already know that.
It seems to me the reasoning behind this idea escapes you. -
07-13-2011, 11:05 AMTheVedisok so if thats what hasty ahnds is for, you just admited your whole idea is uselessQuote:
Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra
after all, thats what hasty hands is for....
seriously, if you cant take the critisism, dont post an idea
auto crafting is just a bad idea.....live with that fact, we arent here to promote making everyone bots -
07-13-2011, 11:25 AMNoctisUmbra
It's not that I cannot take criticism. I actually openly stated that I welcome it. Your post wasn't criticism. It seemed more to me like a generic negative response to the idea of auto-synthesis in general, rather than to what I proposed.
Your response showed that either you did not bother reading the entire post, including the part where I mentioned Hasty Hand and how this would be very much unlike it, or you chose to ignore the points I made.
As far as what I consider to be the only part of your response to actually be criticism: perhaps it may be generous to allow it to be available as an option as soon as you reach the recipe's rank. However as we both understand, lowering it too much would make it useless.
The idea here is that using auto synthesis wouldn't make the process much quicker, but just remove player input during the process in some way until it the progress reaches 100% successfully. Perhaps allow the player to queue a number of repetitions of the same synthesis. I already acknowledged how this sounds much like a bot, and then proceeded to distinguish it.
Excuse me if I sound unwilling to accept your 'criticism', but perhaps if you display in your response that you have read and understood my proposal, and then proceed to point out any shortcomings or issues with it I can take it more seriously.