SquareEnix Press Release: Over 2 million registered accounts for FFXIV:ARR

Link to the Press release:

http://press.na.square-enix.com/rele...a-realm-reborn

Now my question is: Are these subscribers/active players or just accounts incl. inactive?

registered is the max number, no one ever speaks about active sub.
alot of people have 2 accounts then you have rmt.

Just 2 million registered accounts. I doubt they will tell us how many active subs there are. They've been dodging that info for months.

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Originally Posted by KyroeFelix

Just 2 million registered accounts. I doubt they will tell us how many active subs there are. They've been dodging that info for months.

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What is registered users exactly? Is it per SE account? Per service id? However yes, the true test is unique active subs. Many people have a PC and PS3 version (me included), and a lot of PS3 ppl went to PS4. IIRC Yoshi said 500k people were logging in per day at peak a few months ago (though I can't recall if this was measure before 2.1 or after). 500k is pretty good if it's stable (FFXI sat at that number for a while).

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Originally Posted by KyroeFelix

They've been dodging that info for months.

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Nobody is dodging anything. Disclosing that there are 2 million registered accounts is nothing more than a marketing decision. SE has no obligation to players to release the number of active subs. And why in the world would SE release an active subs number that is less than registered accounts? That would be a terrible business decision.

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Originally Posted by Magis

What is registered users exactly? Is it per SE account? Per service id? However yes, the true test is unique active subs. Many people have a PC and PS3 version (me included), and a lot of PS3 ppl went to PS4. IIRC Yoshi said 500k people were logging in per day at peak a few months ago (though I can't recall if this was measure before 2.1 or after). 500k is pretty good if it's stable (FFXI sat at that number for a while).

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The numbers were disclosed around October-November of last year. They had a slideshow and everything to go with it. Registered users = customers that have purchased the product and created an account. Whether that account is still active and not in a cancelled status? I don't know.

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Originally Posted by LexSunfire

Nobody is dodging anything. Disclosing that there are 2 million registered accounts is nothing more than a marketing decision. SE has no obligation to players to release the number of active subs. And why in the world would SE release an active subs number that is less than registered accounts? That would be a terrible business decision.

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The reason I say dodging is because they haven't given us another slide (see above) stating how many players are online. I never said they owe us anything; they showed us 500k people online and now won't say anything 6-7 months later. All they keep telling us is how many registered accounts there are; first at 1mil and now at 2. Many are wondering what the state of the game is and not seeing the number of active subs again bothers them.

Edit: Also, advertising how many registered accounts there are, doesn't tell anyone anything. It could be 500k players with 4 accounts, 1 million legit players and 1 million rmt, 500k players and 1.5 million who quit. I don't know why they are so quick to advertise the registered accounts number when it equates to nothing. If they do it for investors, that makes no sense. If investors think that because there are 2 million accounts, the active subs are anywhere close to that, they need to stop drinking the kool-aid.

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500k is pretty good if it's stable (FFXI sat at that number for a while).

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Not sure FF11 ever hit 500,000 players logging on daily. They hit 500,000 subs.

You can have an account, with a sub, and log in once or twice a week, too. Those wouldn't be counted. You know those people who log on Monday (now Tuesday) and don't log til the next one? Not counted.

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Originally Posted by Magis

What is registered users exactly? Is it per SE account? Per service id? However yes, the true test is unique active subs. Many people have a PC and PS3 version (me included), and a lot of PS3 ppl went to PS4. IIRC Yoshi said 500k people were logging in per day at peak a few months ago (though I can't recall if this was measure before 2.1 or after). 500k is pretty good if it's stable (FFXI sat at that number for a while).

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Unless you registered your PS3 version as one account, and your PC version as another (meaning you have two completely different usernames/passwords) then even if you have all three versions... You only count as ONE registered account.

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Originally Posted by KyroeFelix

Just 2 million registered accounts. I doubt they will tell us how many active subs there are. They've been dodging that info for months.

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Everyone dodges that info... Stop making SE the bad guys.

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Originally Posted by SchalaZeal

Not sure FF11 ever hit 500,000 players logging on daily. They hit 500,000 subs.

You can have an account, with a sub, and log in once or twice a week, too. Those wouldn't be counted. You know those people who log on Monday (now Tuesday) and don't log til the next one? Not counted.

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Those people would be counted. If you pay a monthly fee, regardless of if you even log in once, it is still counted because it makes the MMO money.