SCH macro troubles

To all of you SCH that use Eos in Obey mode, do you find any of your macros with more than one fairy command hardly ever works, because Eos always finds a way to sneak an automatic Embrace in the mix and mess the entire macro function up? How do you get around this?

I made a beautiful macro that looks good on paper, works like a charm out of combat when testing, but inside combat, it never works! Here it is, it was for a Rouse/Fey Illumination combo and then a Whispering Dawn for big AoE heals:

/micon "Fey Illumination"
/ac "Rouse" <me>
/wait 1
/pac "Fey Illumination" <me>
/wait 1
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>


Also on another note, I've seen the following Res macro described as being a no target Res. Can someone explain to me how this works and how I get it working properly? Thanks in advance!


/ac swiftcast <1>
/ac resurrect <t>
/ac resurrect <2>
/ac resurrect <3>
/ac resurrect <4>
/ac resurrect <5>
/ac resurrect <6>
/ac resurrect <7>
/ac resurrect <8>

i would actually recomend you just using different hotkeys for the fairy skills, if she moves or casts embrace mid macro you might have to press it again and wait the whole process to go by again, to have the chance of her doing the exact same thing she did the first time...

and for the ressurect macro, it will cast swift catst on you then try casting ressurect on all the party members in the number order, again... there is a chance that somehow the macro fails and you have to press it again and again till it works... of course if you have a<t> there, there isnt much sense in having the whole party on macro, or the target... since it is on top of the list, it means you will try to cast res on the target first, if you have already selected him.. no need to go though the whole party again.

the macros i use for fairies are only embrace focus target and mouse over, for the exact reasons you mentioned, maybe setting fairy to steady might help but.. i doubt it.

Macros don't queue up like normal abilities do. Because of this, if you hit a macro for Whispering Dawn, she'll often Embrace instead and you'll have to smash the macro until she decides to listen. It's better to actually bind the petbar actions themselves, because they WILL queue (if you press Whispering Dawn while she's using Embrace, for example, she'll then use Whispering Dawn immediately after she finishes). I use a Naga, so I have skills 2-4 on the petbar bound to shift numpad 10, 11, 12 (and embrace bound to e).

Now, as to how the Raise macro works. It activates your Swiftcast and then goes down the list attempting to cast Raise. Think of it like an If/Then statement. If target is dead, raise him. If not, go to party member 2 and if he's dead, raise him. If not...so on and so forth. Personally I'd rather just do a simple /ac "Raise" <mo> and be done with it.

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Originally Posted by Zaft

It's better to actually bind the petbar actions themselves, because they WILL queue (if you press Whispering Dawn while she's using Embrace, for example, she'll then use Whispering Dawn immediately after she finishes).

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That's a good idea and have been catching myself doing that as of lately anyway in order to combat the macro silliness. My question for you now is, do pet actions queue in a line? Like you say if I hit Whispering Dawn while she's in Embrace, it will cast Whispering Dawn when finished. But say I hit Fey Illumination and then Whispering Dawn, will it do both of those actions in order if I hit one after the other while she's in Embrace? Also, I'm on console so I'm stuck with a controller for now, no fancy Naga gaming accessories haha. Thanks for the help!

this is my macro

micon "Rouse"
/ac "Rouse" <me>
/pac "Fey Illumination" <me>

then i hit manually the whispering dawn, works great to dont get stacks on leviathan ex and i find great that eos/selen targets in auto a low hp target, that way she can save him then the healers can cure him, thats what i think, i also have embrace in my hot bar, very usefull

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Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros

this is my macro

micon "Rouse"
/ac "Rouse" <me>
/pac "Fey Illumination" <me>

then i hit manually the whispering dawn, works great to dont get stacks on leviathan ex and i find great that eos/selen targets in auto a low hp target, that way she can save him then the healers can cure him, thats what i think, i also have embrace in my hot bar, very usefull

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That doesn't always work so beautifully, that's why I made this thread. When players' hp are down, Eos is constantly and automatically casting Embrace, so when you attempt to use a macro, Embrace messes up the macro sequence and the macro never goes off in the manner like you expect it should.

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Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen

That doesn't always work so beautifully, that's why I made this thread. When players' hp are down, Eos is constantly and automatically casting Embrace, so when you attempt to use a macro, Embrace messes up the macro sequence and the macro never goes off in the manner like you expect it should.

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well, u cant put her in steady, i think that solves the problem

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Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros

well, u cant put her in steady, i think that solves the problem

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Steady or not, Eos will always cast Embrace on her own, automatically and constantly, when players' hp are down.

The problem with your macro is the /wait before Fey Illumination. Keep in mind that Eos/ Selene operate on their own GCD, so when you cast Rouse then /wait you are effectively giving Eos a second for her AI to auto-cast embrace and if she's casting after the /wait is over it wont go through. You want your Rouse +FI +WD macro to look something like this:

/ac "Rouse" <me>
/pac "Fey Illumination" <me>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>
/wait
/pac "Fey Illumination" <me>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>
/wait
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>

With this macro you basically mash it to get the skills through while everything past the first /wait is basically insurance that she'll continue the chain properly if you stop mashing before she starts casting WD. Also a little trick that most scholars aren't aware of is that if you want to use any of the fairy skills immediately without waiting for her to finish casting you can manually break her embrace by using any of the pet commands (heel, placing, stay and swapping between steady and guard). I have Stay on my bar which I click during those moments where I need a fairy skill fast (Selene's Silent Dusk being the big one) without worrying about her AI as when you break embrace it follows its CD as normal, so you have 1-2secs where they cannot cast embrace which is plenty for you to queue the skills. However! unless you avidly control your pets' placement I would suggest using Heel in place of Stay, because while in Stay they will not budge to heal anything beyond their range even if told so and if you forget that in the heat of the moment, well it could cause problems! lol I've never had an issue with Stay since I constantly use my trusty place/heel macro, but it's something to keep in mind if you wanna experiment.

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Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen

Also on another note, I've seen the following Res macro described as being a no target Res. Can someone explain to me how this works and how I get it working properly? Thanks in advance!

/ac swiftcast <1>
/ac resurrect <t>
/ac resurrect <2>
/ac resurrect <3>
/ac resurrect <4>
/ac resurrect <5>
/ac resurrect <6>
/ac resurrect <7>
/ac resurrect <8>

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They answered your first question already, but as to the second: You've got it exactly right, this should work fine. You'll need to hit the button twice, but seeing as /wait is a bit unreliable with all the lag going around lately, this is probably the better option. I use a controller, and this macro allows me to save one precious hotbar button, because when everybody is alive it doubles as a plain Swiftcast button.