With a reasonable rate, similar to Guild Wars 2, lots of people's excuse to buy from gold spammers is, "I don't have time to grind for money", or "grinding for money is boring"
Now they'll have no reason to buy from gold spammers.
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03-19-2014, 04:24 AMthunderbreakSE should start to sell gil officially as a solution to gold spammers
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03-19-2014, 04:47 AMEd_N_Ants
Only problem with that is when people start buying money like that it kills the economy and the rest of the players... Look at housing for instance... They put ridiculous prices on the houses when they first came out because of all the gil in the world... People that buy gil would make it unfair to everyone else and unfortunately legalizing it would have more people thinking its ok to do...
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03-19-2014, 07:47 AMOrophin
No.
RMT are a plague in every game and they can't ever totally be rooted out. The only way a business will go under if there is no demand for their service.
Offering gil directly from the game provider will turn this into a pay-2-win scenario and most of the players of this game will outright quit. Our subscription cost covers the cost of the salary of the people in charge of doing the investigations and banning of the RMTs. Let them keep fighting the good fight. -
03-19-2014, 12:59 PMGRI3V3RAY
forget about Square selling gil...i can understand your point...but this cant happen and i think not going to happen...Square need to continue fight against the RMTs...and theres another way to do this..the RMTs even put the websites they are selling monney in the comment...the websites i think that Square needs to fight...its sad that RMTs exists...because they are very annoying and breaks the game...please Square..we're with you in this...put this guys down :/
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03-19-2014, 04:54 PMHavenaeNot so much. You have a relatively small subsect of people who buy money in games. honestly you do. It's enough to be marginally profitable to RMT companies but not a large portion of the population. That isn't what kills economies, contrary to popular myth. Things like allowing somone to do EVERYTHING and be ENTIRELY Self-sufficient in an MMO kills economies, it's part of the reason the economy sucks here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants
Anyway to the op. Selling gil won't remove the RMT problem. It might reduce it, but they'll still be there sending you tells. What SE really needs to do is get tough about it. Ban accounts they find soliciting RMTs and accounts they find botting. Ban them permanently, first time, no exceptions. Give us a method to report spammers and bots straight from the chat and character windows, snap shot the last tell sent from the account being reported. It's seriously not hard to spot a RMT spammer's tells. Worried about people abusing the system? Ban the people who abuse it too. Once banned 24 hours, twice banned a week, third time, you're done too.
This idiotic idea of, "Oh well we'll threaten our customers with harsh action if they participate in RMTs" doesn't work. It has never worked and it's anti-customer-service oriented. It's been at least 15 years and going now that people started farming in game currency and selling it online and it has never worked, they're still here. They're still selling. So save your breath on that business. No one feels threatened and obviously people are still buying. All you're doing with these actions taken against RMTs is just hurting your own profit margin.
If you think about it, gil is their IP, it's part of their game that someone else is selling and making profit from. That's theft, that's piracy, why dont they take some of that DMCA muscle these companies like to throw around and start breathing down the necks of the ISPs of the twats that sell in game currencies? Contrary to popular belief RMT companies aren't all just sweatshops in Malaysia filled with asians who dont speak a lick of english. A lot of them are right here in the Western world too. -
03-19-2014, 08:41 PMLazypeteI dont agree, it wouldn't turn into a pay-2-win since most things important to win can't be bought, but, I agree it would kill the economy.Quote:
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03-19-2014, 09:57 PMthunderbreak
Aren't people aren't pay to win with gold spammers anyways? I guess my point is people are gonna pay to win is gonna pay to win anyways, whether they are gonna buy from SE or RMT. The house won't have roaches and rats if there's no garbage for them to live off.
Whatever SE doing at this time is obviously not decreasing the amount of /tell I'm receiving. I've got 200+ on my blacklist, and reported 170+ of them. That's the method SE told me to do, and so far 4 of them got their account deleted. I am tired of this outbreak, and I'm gonna give SE my ideas. -
03-20-2014, 09:21 AMThunderTopazyou could, like me, make a separate chat box just for the tell, shouts and anything else.Quote:
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03-20-2014, 07:20 PMDesecret
Nope.
Look what happened to diablo 3
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03-20-2014, 11:04 PMZebyxusBut you couldn't directly buy gold in D3's auction houses, and thanks to the new expansion they've (blizzard) shut down the AH's for D3.Quote:
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The only way that RMT bots and companies are going to be driven from the game is effectively destroy the economy by limiting what an item can be sold for, how many high priced items can be bought at once, and ultimately, making gil untradable outside of stores.
I guess all we can ask for is that SE include a Report from Chat option and have it send a copy of the text, sender etc. under a selectable title (RMT, Spam, Abusive etc.) to those who deal with it. Because I'm sure I'm not the only one who's got a blacklist full but doesn't see the point in sending fully detailed reports for each spammer.