Surplus not being removed in 1.18

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/14900-%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AF%E4%B8%8A%E3%81%92%E3%81%8C%E7%84%A1%E9%A7%84%E3%81%AB%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8B%EF%BC%9F?p=208477&viewfull=1#post208477

How hard is it to turn it off? Really? Doesn't really affect me too much because I'm finishing off my last combat 50 within the week so I won't be playing XIV as much in general, and after that I'll only have 3 more classes left...

But, come on. He said it's being removed, so why can't they just have maintenance in a day and turn it off?

- most (sane) people don't like it, and many would say they hate it
- the text lies to you (lol, but seriously "bonus"?)
- doesn't prevent people who play more from speeding ahead of everyone
- inb4 "it's not that big of a deal if you level multiple things", because you can get incredibly far into it even while leveling all your combats at once, which no one really wants to do anyway
- inb4 "we SP too fast anyway, you can get 50 in a month with BW3". 1 month to get 50 in a game that's cap is going to be higher is a bit much. XI took, what, a week at most? The SP TNL is kinda crazy at 50, and only multiplies higher given the trend at 51~

Oh, and BW3 is getting nerfed. As are leves in general. And "SP might be bad again" according to Yoshi, at least for a while (until 1.19? until 1.20? beyond?)

Don't see how they'll be able to get things right in the future if they can't flip that switch off.

Well, somebody has to...

Who knows! Maybe he'll ninja-remove it and you'll not know =)

LateReg, this is old news. I guess your forum name fits you perfectly.

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the text lies to you (lol, but seriously "bonus"?)

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the surplus system hasn't stated in text the word bonus in months, when did you last play?

Such a fitting name, late to the party bro and as suggest above. "Deal with it"

It doesnt really matter to me if they still continued this

heh

I would like to see surplus go but it's the least of SE's worries. Let them continue on with fixing the game first. =)

According to producer letter X, surplus will be removed "following balance adjustments". This clearly suggests that they consider straight-up removing surplus a bad move as it would allow "hardcore" players to level much faster. That means they're most likely going to nerf grinding SP across the board when they do it while further incentivizing strictly limited progress methods (the announced leve/quest completion rewards).

This is entirely speculative of course, but I have a hard time reading "balance adjustments" any other way.

Also you dont need BW leves to lvl up you can just grind on various mobs out there with a party like puks, coblyn and doblyn, efts, peistes or raptors, etc etc for example. You people are just lazy to explore and find nice camps to lvl up. And you have Behest too which is good for earlier lvls.

I agree that they need to get rid of it as soon as 1.18. And it couldn't really be that hard to reconfigure the bonuses and amount of SP it takes to rank up.

The reason for fatigue is to help casual players, but it's stupid because they do it by hurting hardcore players. The best way to help casual players is by adding, but limiting, bonuses. Guardian's Aspect and leve reset are good examples, but that's about all there is. They should really add just a plain old exp ring that recharges every so often (100% Bonus, Cap @ 15k SP 3 charges, resets every week), and you can use it for leves.

It's like they're trying to give bonuses to casuals, but also give bonuses to hardocores while at the same time nerfing them.