Leves should be removed or atleast downplayed for overall gameplay?

after reading some of
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Zone-Long-OP
i started to think that this is an amazing idea but it just wont work that well with leve's

we are forced to do leve's mainly because they are the best way to get exp and sp in the game.
yet with leves we are forced to go to the same camps every day and a half to repeat whats been done every day before
This has been "okay" with the current system and monster placement but if they fix the monster placement what would it do?
we would keep doing the same leves and keep going to the same places.
so for the community to be pushed to each area having partying as the backbone of the game instead of leve's would be ideal
this isnt saying that partying should be forced down every1's throut but be the ideal way to progressing through the game
yet for those party haters their should be stuff on the side like leves and maybe a ff11 campaign like behest and maybe other things SE could think of
before replying plz read OP's remark in the link atleast to know wth im talking about with the mob placement

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Originally Posted by danny52844

td;dr why not have slower exp rates for solo play while partying being the mainstream

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Isn't that how it is already? Leve's are only useful when linking in parties imo.

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Originally Posted by Ruri

Isn't that how it is already? Leve's are only useful when linking in parties imo.

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if you had the choice would you rather do leves or partys? most ppl i think would do leves because its just better what im saying is make the solo stuff worse than partying

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Originally Posted by danny52844

if you had the choice would you rather do leves or partys? most ppl i think would do leves because its just better what im saying is make the solo stuff worse than partying

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I would like to do parties rather than solo. I find it about 100X more fun in parties. But I only do leve's in parties as well.

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Originally Posted by Ruri

I would like to do parties rather than solo. I find it about 100X more fun in parties. But I only do leve's in parties as well.

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lol im getting off my own topic :P all im saying is that i think that partying needs to be forced kinda like it was in 11 with the option of opting out of it so that http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Zone-Long-OP can work
what he was saying is that we need specified zones so that we can feel accomplished when we get high enough to go to a new zone yet if all u ever need to rly do is some leve's does that change anything even if the zones get reorganized

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Originally Posted by danny52844

lol im getting off my own topic :P all im saying is that i think that partying needs to be forced kinda like it was in 11 with the option of opting out of it so that http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Zone-Long-OP can work
what he was saying is that we need specified zones so that we can feel accomplished when we get high enough to go to a new zone yet if all u ever need to rly do is some leve's does that change anything even if the zones get reorganized

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In that case I totally agree. Leves should not be the main focus and partying in "camps" like in 11 should be brought back. I like not being forced into parties though so they need to balance solo play.

Yeah, they should give leves and behests some more purpose other than for leveling because right now they are just boring content. As for party play, we need more party based content along with the so called "raids" that would actually make teaming up more meaningful instead of just grouping and then grinding in a certain spot. While behest already does this and actually makes grouping a necessity, maybe they could just expand it as the maintstream party play for exp. Behest is already known as a party play content in this game and actually works quite well but it needs to be amped up and not down graded like what they did when they lessened behest participants.

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Originally Posted by BloodMage

Yeah, they should give leves and behests some more purpose other than for leveling because right now they are just boring content. As for party play, we need more party based content along with the so called "raids" that would actually make teaming up more meaningful instead of just grouping and then grinding in a certain spot. While behest already does this and actually makes grouping a necessity, maybe they could just expand it as the maintstream party play for exp. Behest is already known as a party play content in this game and actually works quite well but it needs to be amped up and not down graded like what they did when they lessened behest participants.

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i competly agree with this yet what i think behest should become is more of a defence against ishragard w/e its name is and not be every hour because then you have 50 mins of nothing i mean like 1 camp should be attacked yes kinda like campaign but w/e campaign worked and behest is just like campaign other than its everywhere at once and you dont have npc's helping you it might be hard to get the strength of the mobs leveled but im sure SE could do it

no one agrees ; ;?

Leves are designed to compensate for the excessive grindiness of the game. Problem is, a game shouldn't use grind as a progression model.