What's more difficult to use end game? SCH or WHM

I've played both, end game, t5 and SCH is hands down a billion times easier. Instant heals, near infinite mana, much less stressful preemptive healing, I would argue it's too easy to play.

However, I bring this up because many people I've encountered say whm so much easier, just spam cure~. That would be true if our mana was infinite.

What do other people think?

Wait, if people say WHM is easier by just spamming Cure, wouldn't SCH *still* be easier for the same reason, with addition MP-free healing via the fairy?

I haven't played a WHM in T5 but I can't imagine it being more difficult than SCH. You have no Faerie to watch over, no Aetherflow to watch over, Adloquium needs to be up before a Death Sentence hits. Putting Sacred Soil and try to Succor before Fireballs. I believe the WHM is an "after-care" job while SCH is a "preventive" one.

I find WHM easier to play (playing both in all content including T5) in new content that I might not be familiar with, mostly due to mechanics.
Both are doing their job really well and I enjoy playing both.

I only say "easier" because you have less skills to choose from for any given situation and no fairy to control.

With that said, once you know a fight both are getting quite straight forward to play. You know when to use which skill and where and when to place your fairy.

While MP management is definitely easier on SCH that doesn't mean the job as a whole is easier to play than WHM, btw.

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

Wait, if people say WHM is easier by just spamming Cure, wouldn't SCH *still* be easier for the same reason, with addition MP-free healing via the fairy?

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No, because a WHM gets away with "only" casting Heals because they are very strong. While a SCH has to combine mitigation skills, fairy and direct heals to achieve full potential.

I haven't played SCH, but I got the impression it'd be tougher. Sure, there's MP-free heals with the Fairy and supposedly "half" of your job is filled in with your fairy...but surely managing a pet is an additional complication? That intimidates me a little at the idea of playing SCH. I find WHM quite easy, really. That could be because I've healed a lot in past MMOs and also played a WHM in FFXI, but still, it feels comfortable and quite simple.

I think WHM is "easier" to play because they have less meaningful tools but harder to achieve good result with while SCH has more tools and things to look for but SCH's tools are so powerful you can achieve good results as long as you have a basic understanding of their use.

EDIT : Like a basic car is easier to drive than a race car but it's harder to win a race with it.

Having played both, WHM is by far easier. I do not have mana issues on either so that just really isn't a factor to me, but when utilizing all your SCH tools there is a lot more to do and decide on the fly than on a WHM. I guess if you don't manual your fairy than it makes scholar easier, but you lose a lot of potential that way in return.

Granted healing in this game is not exactly challenging regardless of class choice.

It depends on your definition of easy. As a sch i need to push more buttons. In that sense whm is easier. Less choices, less buttons. Less buttons also means less control however. Less actions per gcd.

So overall I think sch is easier if you can handle buttons. Pet management is easy, macros make it easier, mana is a joke to manage and having lustrate means you can respond to things much faster. On a single target there is no question sch is easier to keep a tank up with. Aoe is a little more complicated on a sch but just because a whm CAN spam aoe heals doesn't mean its easy, you'll destroy your mana and generate threat.

Both healers must be proactive, just differently.

The Sch version of proactive is preshield, mitigation, and if somehow the tank still gets hit too hard they have lustrate.

Whm proactive is timing heals to land as or right after damage lands, that means you need to understand the fight enough to start casts before scripted moves and understand autoattack timers. Tank gets a bad hit, hope your tank doesn't die in the next gcd.

WHM is easier only because the class is simpler. PS3! PS3! Woop.
SCH is easier only because insta-cures 25% and constant Cure I / Embraces.

T1 - SCH
T2 - WHM
T4 - SCH
T5 - SCH

Garuda - SCH
Titan - WHM
Ifrit - WHM

L50 Dungeons - WHM (Holy spam for speed)

Anything which requires healing more than 3 players at a time regularly is preferred for WHM. Anything that doesn't, SCH is better with slightly higher single target heals.

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Originally Posted by UlricCraft

WHM is easier only because the class is simpler. PS3! PS3! Woop.
SCH is easier only because insta-cures 25% and constant Cure I / Embraces.

T1 - SCH
T2 - WHM
T4 - SCH
T5 - SCH

Garuda - SCH
Titan - WHM
Ifrit - WHM

L50 Dungeons - WHM (Holy spam for speed)

Anything which requires healing more than 3 players at a time regularly is preferred for WHM. Anything that doesn't, SCH is better with slightly higher single target heals.

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Totally agree! I never have mana issues on my WHM. Never. I understand a fresh 50 needing to cast cure 2 more to bring up the raid, and having slower mana regen, but when I see WHM in turn 4 spamming cure 2 with an item level of 85+, then asking for mana song, I just cringe.

Scholar for Titan though. Much more fun to me.