To people carping about wanting a challenge then bailing out of challenging dungeons:

How does it feel to be a hypocrite?

I find that when people state as such on the forums, it means that they want challenge for other players, and not necessarily themselves. These same people are also as like to not do the content until a Youtube video/strat is established.

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Originally Posted by HorrorStory

I find that when people state as such on the forums, it means that they want challenge for other players, and not necessarily themselves. These same people are also as like to not do the content until a Youtube video/strat is established.

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Ah, yes, lets make bad generalizations.

"It's not a challenge for me, super awesome man. I just don't want to carry some freshly dinged 50 scrub noob baddie!!!!"

Did I do it right? Please tell me, you seem so good at it.



OT: Don't do DF with random people and you won't have to worry about people leaving the group.

You cross reference their posts when you see them in game? How exactly can you tell they are the same people?

People don't bail out of challenging dungeons, they bail out of challenging parties. There are no challenging dungeons, just people who make them so.

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Originally Posted by Hayward

How does it feel to be a hypocrite?

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No point wasting time in a party that can't keep themselves alive.

I think this falls in line with people getting Pharos Sirius on roulette and bailing before the first pull

People bail on "Challenging dungeons" because, and I'm not sorry to say, many would fail this basic test:

http://i60.tinypic.com/2e21m4o.png

Now - Is the dungeon itself challenging? No. Do the players you end up paired with make it challenging? Yes. Tam Tara is also very challenging using this logic.

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Originally Posted by lbz1983

I think this falls in line with people getting Pharos Sirius on roulette and bailing before the first pull

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This. Ive heard Hakkue HM is the same and have had a few people bail on Copperbell HM when it seems they have gotten it on roulette. I dont think people are talking about normal Duty Finder anymore. This complaint can easily be seen with roulettes where a player gets plopped with a random party in a random challenge dungeon. Granted I don't remember doing Hakkue HM or Pharos so I am not too certain on its difficulty,but people bailing before the first pull is never okay since you dont even know how the group is gonna turn out.

Farming is not challenging.