Jobs like merits

Another silly idea flew through my head.

It has been stated that jobs will be the same level as the class they are associated with, meaning a rank 50 gladiator will be rank 50 palladin. So a question then comes into how the jobs will "Grow"

Will they simply gain abillities as you rank up? rather stale don't you think? Why not just add the skills to gladiator then.

I propose a solution to this problem

Have some sort of progression system for "Jobs" outside the current rank system, wether it be questing new skills, or preforming certain tasks to unlock abillities, or some sort of "Merit system" like in XI.

Imagine it like this.

-Shield expertise "Min rank to unlock" 5
Gain expert handeling with a shield in your off-hand blocking blows more frequently than usual "5% chance to block attacks without having sheild raised"
Goal: Block 100 attacks.

-Shield expertise II "Min rank to unlock" 15
~"10% chance to block attacks without having sheild raised"
Goal: Block 100 critical attacks

Gaining "Points" for said goals would be somewhat like "Skillups" in XI where you had to at least gain some sort of exp to "Count" Personally I think it would be a good way to inject a form of lateral progression alongside the normal progression of ranks, and a well needed time sink.

What do you guys think?

I am hoping for a merit system to be put in place at some point but I think they will wait until FFXIV's true cap is revealed so at R75-99, then hopefully it will be put into place.

As for Jobs using a merit style system, that could be good and a way to level our jobs without levelling ^^

A Merit-System i will like of course. But i think its to early to speculate about a System like that, since the Levelcap is still at 50. So i agree with both posts before me.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Another silly idea flew through my head.

It has been stated that jobs will be the same level as the class they are associated with, meaning a rank 50 gladiator will be rank 50 palladin. So a question then comes into how the jobs will "Grow"

Will they simply gain abillities as you rank up? rather stale don't you think? Why not just add the skills to gladiator then.

I propose a solution to this problem

Have some sort of progression system for "Jobs" outside the current rank system, wether it be questing new skills, or preforming certain tasks to unlock abillities, or some sort of "Merit system" like in XI.

Imagine it like this.

-Shield expertise "Min rank to unlock" 5
Gain expert handeling with a shield in your off-hand blocking blows more frequently than usual "5% chance to block attacks without having sheild raised"
Goal: Block 100 attacks.

-Shield expertise II "Min rank to unlock" 15
~"10% chance to block attacks without having sheild raised"
Goal: Block 100 critical attacks

Gaining "Points" for said goals would be somewhat like "Skillups" in XI where you had to at least gain some sort of exp to "Count" Personally I think it would be a good way to inject a form of lateral progression alongside the normal progression of ranks, and a well needed time sink.

What do you guys think?

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I like the idea, but — and it might be the earlier hour here — how would you gain points in your idea? Would it be like the Weaponskill quest in FFXI, where you needed 1000 points from successfully completing a skillchain? Or, are we talking about just successfully blocking X amount of attacks to gain some the merits.

The one thing about jobs that really had me peeved was that nothing would be leveled up separately but instead quested for, if only because there are jobs I miss from XI. I understand, the way Gladiator is, it is very Paladin-like and so that's understandable. There's no reason to level up what you've already leveled up.

But in the future, so long as they offer new weapons and classes with classic FF names and a new spin on their role in the game, I will be happy, and a merit system would be a bonus.

I imagine if they did do a merit system they'd try to tie it into the guilds. O:

Didn't they already confirm that jobs will have quests for you to unlock additional skills, etc? That can be seen as a method of growth. I do like merits though. Helps to give an edge to players that put in the extra effort.

Agreed, and yes they are skills you quest for after reaching a certain rank. I do hope they are at least a little difficult to acquire as you go on. Like unlocking weapon skills in XI to, as well as merits, give a little incentive to players who put in extra effort.

It's nice to have goals.

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Originally Posted by Archadius

Didn't they already confirm that jobs will have quests for you to unlock additional skills, etc? That can be seen as a method of growth. I do like merits though. Helps to give an edge to players that put in the extra effort.

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If they have, I missed it. I had hoped they weren't going to just give us anything, and I do like the idea of rewarding those who put in the effort. It was something mentioned in this thread by Rentahamster about Leaderboards and Achievements.

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Originally Posted by normalforce

If they have, I missed it. I had hoped they weren't going to just give us anything, and I do like the idea of rewarding those who put in the effort. It was something mentioned in this thread by Rentahamster about Leaderboards and Achievements.

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I'm like 99% sure it was mentioned officially, and if I could remember where, I'd link it for you :( If you wanna search for yourself though, I'm pretty sure it was in a Letter From the Producer.

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Originally Posted by Archadius

I'm like 99% sure it was mentioned officially, and if I could remember where, I'd link it for you :( If you wanna search for yourself though, I'm pretty sure it was in a Letter From the Producer.

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Excellent, I'll read back through the letters then. Thanks.