How about a compromise?

Make Coil becoming easier optional. Players who beat it on original difficulty get an achievement and/or token(s) for special weapons a la EX. Players who simply want to get to the next stepping stone can opt for the echo buff.

Casual players who want to progress can progress.
Players who want to feel proud of their achievements get a special something the casual players can't.

Done.

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Originally Posted by OmegaFlare

Then the casual players are going to cry about not getting the tokens for the special weapons.

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How so? If they want it, then they can beat Twintania on normal difficulty. The option is still there. By making the nerfs optional and giving you the freedom to choose (similar to normal mode and hard mode, or in this case, "easy" mode and normal mode), you cater to both groups without alienating either. You don't hear people crying about not being able to get the EX weapons.

My 0.02~

Facts:

We currently have caps because there is nothing beyond the content.
People who currently don't do Coil, in all likelihood, are not going to do the new content either.

Idea:

Current Coil remains the same as it is, no change in difficulty, the only change is the removal of the lockout.
Duty Finder "Easy Mode" Coil has the lockouts current Coil has.

Result:

People who are going to do the new content can spam old Coil to gear themselves.
People who aren't going to do new Coil can still do old Coil.
If "Casuals" want to progress iLv90 faster, the challenge themselves with old Coil.
"Casuals" become better at the game as a result.

Other note:

Gear from Coil presumably isn't even going to be that worthwhile anymore, what with new Tomestone and new Coil gear. Mythology should lose its cap as well, with the introduction of new Tomestones. There is also the possibility of them adding new crafted gear in the iLv80~90 range; with Materia that should be great, and we got tV matter from the main quest last update which is redundant at the moment, hint hint. My point here? Current Coil gear shouldn't particularly matter to people not doing it, Mythology/craft/etc gear easily fills that hole. The point of making Coil easier is so they can progress the story.

I would like this. I wouldn't even care about the achievement if I'm honest, I just want to get a legitimate win against Twintania rather than steamroll her once she's turned into a shell of her former self.

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Originally Posted by TeganLaron

I would like this. I wouldn't even care about the achievement if I'm honest, I just want to get a legitimate win against Twintania rather than steamroll her once she's turned into a shell of her former self.

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You got 3 months to do it, since they told us the patch will be out then. You have plenty of time.

Then the casual players are going to cry about not getting the tokens for the special weapons.

IMHO SE should just sell some coil stickers for the "casuals" to make their allaghan cosplay equip and leave the content alone.
Yeah, allaghan stickers instead of tomestones. You'll get equip for the look but no stats.

If the difficulty is going to be handled using the echo buff as everyone assumes then the content itself isn't being touched. Instead players just get a buff to make themselves stronger with every wipe. Old coil will still be old coil, it'll just have the lockout removed. We also don't know if a loot lockout ala CT will be imposed in it's place either.

Bear in mind also that SE seems to like having a lore-friendly reason for there being different difficulties of some instances. I can't see a reason why Coil would suddenly get easier and have two different versions of the place. The other HMs actually take place after the normal modes...

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Originally Posted by Zumi

You got 3 months to do it, since they told us the patch will be out then. You have plenty of time.

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It's nearly February and the patch is in March...3 months?

My .02


No?

I'm a casual player, and I support the idea of Coil being nerfed optionally. Or an alternative version of Coil for the casual players, or pretty much anything other than just making it easier for everyone.

(Also, I may be a casual player, but it bothers me that just about every patch, something is being made easier due to player complaints)