BLM Int Eq

I made a list of equipment for black mage ilevel 70 and above that includes what I call their Intelligence Equivalents. This allows for easy comparison of which equipment has more damage output potential rather than just eyeballing it. Melded vanya stats are included. I have also added accuracy stats next to each entry for comparison purposes since it is so important for BLM to be at acc cap. This is based on Deus' melding list and the Ultimate BLM spreadsheet.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

Awesome thank you for making this :D

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1 weapon damage = 4 int
5 determination = 1 int
5 critical = 1 int

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Based on the last work did on the subject, for blm it's more 1 wd = 6 int, 3.5 det = 1 int, 5 critical = 1 int (w/o mention that you need to see the full set to know the value, you can not really do it with 1 gear alone).


Based on my spreadsheet, on 3 different sets (lev 80-90), you have something like this : http://puu.sh/6xQgw.png

Umm...what? This makes no sense to me whatsoever. Lets start with the first item, weapons. You say that according to your calculations...the Elder Staff is the best weapon, beating out both Relic Zenith AND Allagan...is this a joke?

What exactly is the argument you are trying to make, that this "INT eq" = contribution to overall DPS and that these "INT eq" values you have assigned to these pieces of gear indicate that they are better or worse then other pieces?

If so, this is the most absurd piece of misinformation I have ever seen.

Start with the first items in your doc, weapons. You assign your highest "INT eq" to the Elderstaff, above both Zenith AND Allagan, do me a favor, and put the statistical values you have with each weapon equipped (just weapon, no other gear) into Puros calulator, and see what the calculator (let alone actual performance in game) shows...oh my gosh, how shocking, the Elder Staff values for DPS and Crit Adjusted DPS are the LOWEST.

Go down your list and put all the items in, all of the items you have assigned a higher "INT eq" to, give the LOWEST DPS vs AF2 or Allagan individually, and even more so in any mix match of sets. (each individual piece of your highest "INT eq" gives lower DPS, equipping more than one increases the overall disparity even more".

To clarify, my issue is with the all the lower ilvl items you have assigned a higher "INT eq" to then their higher ilvl counterparts, read: Chest, Gloves, Belt. As well as how close some of the lower ilvl "INT eq" values are to their higher ilvl counterparts, and the weapons.

Leaving out spell speed is the biggest mistake in this calculation, I think. Spell speed even worth more than crit according to many calculations ppl have done, including the web you cited.

Ha, is that what it is, they didn't count spell speed at all? Wow...

Yeah when you take the "correct values" (they can not be correct when you look 1 item alone so you have to put them in a set), you find something like this :
allagan : 71 x 6 + 33 + 26 x 0.25 = 426 + 33 + 1.5 = 460.5
relic +1 : 69 x 6 + 31 + 18 x 0.28 + 37 x 0.25 = 414 + 31 + 5.04 + 9.25 = 459.29
elder : 69 x 6 + 31 + 26 x 0.28 + 26 x 0.25 = 414 + 31 + 7.28 + 6.5 = 458.78

(The value for 1 SS is the only thing that i can not calculate myself because i never saw how ppl did to find them so i took the value in the puro strider's spreadsheet. Considering that his calculation of the stat weight is not correct for at least the WD and the DET, it might have an incorrect value for the SS but it wont change the fact that the allagan weapon is the best of the 3. The change will probably be for the second and the third position, if anything have to change).

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Originally Posted by Gael

Based on the last work did on the subject[/url], for blm it's more 1 wd = 6 int, 3.5 det = 1 int, 5 critical = 1 int (w/o mention that you need to see the full set to know the value, you can not really do it with 1 gear alone).


Based on my spreadsheet, on 3 different sets (lev 80-90), you have something like this : http://puu.sh/6xQgw.png

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This was largely meant for my own use in determining upgrade order rather than BiS. The spreadsheet I was using shows an inflection point where crt and det are about the same in value and I used that for my calculations, which should occur somewhere in the i70s. There are other sources for determining i90 BiS.

I admit I was not aware of there being such a large difference in damage stats from different sources. The weapon damage being worth 6 int rather than 4 was news to me, and that will make a big difference on the weapons. I can rework the numbers if people want with this 'new' data.

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Originally Posted by xEscaflownex

Ha, is that what it is, they didn't count spell speed at all? Wow...

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Spell speed was not used because there is no way to directly translate it to increased damage on anything but a training dummy. If you are standing still the entire fight then you are fighting something so weak your exact dps doesn't matter. Accuracy is important and it was noted when a piece had acc on it, but there is no real way to directly translate that to any kind of equivalent measurement that is meaningful.

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Originally Posted by MorganaMaleficent

The spreadsheet I was using shows an inflection point where crt and det are about the same in value and I used that for my calculations, which should occur somewhere in the i70s. There are other sources for determining i90 BiS.

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In most sources where you can see the weight of the determination, the formula used was the one that made by valk. This "old" formula is known to be "off", particularly for high levels of DTR.

I suggest you to NOT trust me. Use the formula i linked in my first reply (dont forget to add the astral fire buff and the Magick and Mend II trait), then see how damn close you are from your damages IG (that should convince you that the formula you used it accurate, even if it's not perfect). After you did that, add the critic, and then calculate yourself the weight of each stat, you will have something more accurate that the source you used ^^