Anyone not so excited for 2.2 and the future of this game?

I absolutely love the music, artstyle and environments in this game definitely top notch..

But some of the design choices, just seem mind boggling to me, nerfing old content, making old gear useless, vertical progression, everything becoming increasingly instanced... It just sound like unsustainable development to me.

If they want people to play longer, why do they make it easier and easier to breeze through content just to cap you when you get to the end. & give you absolutely everything you need before then.

A year or so down the road, Titan, Ifrit, Garuda, Shiva will probably be completely forgotten and then the story has to become equally contrived just to keep up with the players own progress.
They seem so concerned with adding new content instead of making lasting, impressionable content.

I love the game alot, and want it to succeed, and enjoyed everything from 1 - 50, but I just can't see myself keep on subscribing.

The biggest thing is it doesn't feel like an FF, it feels like a generic MMO with amazing music and environments.

You can't make content last for years without forcing the players to repeat it for years (via FFXI-style super low drop rates). Gamers don't put up with that sort of thing anymore.

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

You can't make content last for years without forcing the players to repeat it for years (via FFXI-style super low drop rates). Gamers don't put up with that sort of thing anymore.

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The Souls series has been doing mighty fine, those games have endless replayability because they have near endles depth

Unless the low drop rate items are actually going to be good for the next couple of years rather than the next few months.

And low drop rates? There's plenty of coil gear I've yet to see drop after doing coil for 3+ months.


And yeah, the nerf to blm single target damage and the refusal to fix firestarter procs showed they really can't be bothered to fix things, just waiting for the next big thing that hits and will affect me to quit.

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Originally Posted by Mihael_Longclaw

The Souls series has been doing mighty fine, those games have endless replayability because they have near endles depth

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Can you post a link to the game, I've never heard of it.

@synaesthetic : Sure you can make old content relevant. It just involves proper planning and establishing long term goals.
What is to stop SE from making Primal Extremes (including shiva/leviathan/ramuh) a prerequisite to fight another stronger primal, like say Fenrir or Alexander?

I think the people who didn't like XI are the people who were just too casual and lazy to experience it. SE shouldn't be aiming to please Blizzard fans and recreate WoW; they should be studying what worked in XI and previous FF titles and use that as their benchmark(s).
Besides, no one will ever make a WoW that is more WoW than WoW. so stop it SE. Have some self respect and dignity.

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Originally Posted by Royze

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Too casual? Lazy? Oh you think that people without 8h of game-time a day are lazy or "too much casual"?

That's neat, people should all not work and play more so that developers can aim for more RNG based MMOs because that would bring them more money.

The game is more casual friendly because there are more casual gamers out there, gamers who can play 6h+ a day ain't even 2% of the actual player base, I'm sure of it.

If people want games whee you need lots of time and effort to get anything they should play more Korean games then.
Maybe that would please them more.

And SE is not copying WoW they're just making the game more casual friendly and guess who are the majority players in wow... the casual gamers.

Honestly, I think it can only get better from here. Assuming the game won't ever change or gain depth is just silly. It's going to take a long time before this game lives up to it's full potential. I'm sure FFXI wasn't the awesome game people reminisce about on it's first few months of release.

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Originally Posted by jabbywocks

Honestly, I think it can only get better from here. Assuming the game won't ever change or gain depth is just silly. It's going to take a long time before this game lives up to it's full potential. I'm sure FFXI wasn't the awesome game people reminisce about on it's first few months of release.

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The original JP release had major problems, and that was before it was even available to play on PC.
By the time it was released in NA, with Rise of the Zilart expansion, it had become much better.

JP PS2 release may 16, 2002
JP PC release nov 7, 2002
NA PC release Oct 28, 2003
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I know people are probably sick of hearing this, but I think we need to give it some time. With 2.1 having been a backwards patch, I don't think it's fair to judge until 2.2 or even 2.3. But 2.2 will give us a pretty clear idea of what they're envisioning and we'll definitely know where the game is headed by 2.3.

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Originally Posted by Nekodar

The original JP release had major problems, and that was before it was even available to play on PC.
By the time it was released in NA, with Rise of the Zilart expansion, it had become much better.

JP PS2 release may 16, 2002
JP PC release nov 7, 2002
NA PC release Oct 28, 2003
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Very true. Original XI was garbage. But it quickly became worthy of its title of the most succesfull MMO in Japan within a year.
FFXIV release date was over 40 months ago...