Ascians and Espers FFXII relationship to FFXIV (Lore) - Potential SPOILERS!

FC mate of mine, Arngrim Heimdall (Hyperion) posted this.

I had no idea! You think we'll be fighting the Ascians in their Esper forms in the future?

I apologize if this is common knowledge but i HAD NO IDEA. It's pretty cool.

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More from my friend Arngrim,

" FFT had an optional boss names Eldibus who was a dark wizard that learned to summon Zodiark. The Ascian messenger in 2.1 story was also named Eldibus. Also we know from the end of the 2.0 missions that Zodiark is the true god of the Ascians. Zodiark has never been in any FF game outside the Ivalice ones."

" Each esper in FFXII had a counterpart "Scion". Five of those names match the names of the Ascians we've seen so far. Also, the glyph over the Ascians' face match the glyph used to summon them in FFXII."

We have the judges from XII as well and we know that Hydaelyn is connected to Ivalice (XII world) in strong ways.

No,Esper from Ivalice are Primals in FFXIV ( cf Belias in the lvl 50 summoner quest ) Ascians are no gods, they are the messenger of gods.

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Originally Posted by lololink

No,Esper from Ivalice are Primals in FFXIV ( cf Belias in the lvl 50 summoner quest ) Ascians are no gods, they are the messenger of gods.

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We havn't seen any of these Espers in FFXIV except for Ultima, which doesn't have a Scion associated with it. I'm thinking SE is saving these Espers from FFXII to use as bosses in FFXIV. The Ascians may have a human form and an Esper form.

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Originally Posted by lololink

No,Esper from Ivalice are Primals in FFXIV ( cf Belias in the lvl 50 summoner quest ) Ascians are no gods, they are the messenger of gods.

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Actually Espers from Ivalice are not the primals we have from FFXIV(or common summons)

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Level One Espers
Belias, the Gigas (Tomb of Raithwall).
Mateus, the Corrupt (Stilshrine of Miriam).
Adrammelech, the Wroth (Zertinan Caverns, in Athroza Quicksands, closest from Ozmone Plain).
Zalera, the Death Seraph (Barheim Passage, obtain the Barheim Key in the Dalmasca Estersand).

Level Two Espers
Shemhazai, the Whisperer (Giruvegan).
Hashmal, Bringer of Order (Pharos at Ridorana).
Cúchulainn, the Impure (Garamsythe Waterway, complete "Lost in the Pudding" and use the key to reach Cúchulainn).
Zeromus, the Condemner (Stilshrine of Miriam, obtain the Stone of the Condemner from the Acolyte on Mt. Bur-Omisace after defeating Judge Magister Bergan).
Exodus, the Judge-Sal (Mosphoran Highwaste, after the Salika Gate is fixed, solve the floatweed puzzle).
Level Three Espers
Famfrit, the Darkening Cloud (Pharos at Ridorana, fought alongside Doctor Cid).
Chaos, Walker of the Wheel (Necrohol of Nabudis, must defeat Fury and Humbaba Mistant).
Ultima, the High Seraph (Giruvegan, Great Crystal).
Zodiark, Keeper of Precepts (Henne Mines, command at least ten other Espers, finish all Jahara based hunts and speak to Geomancer Yugelu in Jahara).

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They are closer to major enemies in FF tactics, Lion war than actual espers (like in FF6) some of them are even remakes of major last bosses (like Zeromus and Chaos)

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Originally Posted by Zell

We havn't seen any of these Espers in FFXIV except for Ultima, which doesn't have a Scion associated with it. I'm thinking SE is saving these Espers from FFXII to use as bosses in FFXIV. The Ascians may have a human form and an Esper form.

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We never see Ultima, it's the Ultima spell not the Esper Ultima, and we see the dark summoner summons a Belias-Egi meaning Belias and so the other 12 Esper are Primal, nothing seems to point that Ascians are Primals.

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Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl

Actually Espers from Ivalice are not the primals we have from FFXIV(or common summons)

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Yes but in Eorzea they are Primals, it's a different world.