This dungeon is clearly unfavorable to be done with none decent gear. At an ilvl req. of 48, we currently have fresh 50's trying to farm this dungeon for gear in duty finder. Problem is majority of this dungeon is dependent to some degree on DPS.
First boss fight for example, the longer this fight drags on, the harder it is to maintain both with the debuff stacking, and dogs increasing in number. Flailing DPS cannot handle this.
Second boss, similar issue with adds.
Fresh 50's (no relic, no AF gear) make this dungeon overall unbearable.
I'd personally recommend an ilvl req of at least 60, preferably 65.
In hindsight, I was hasty with that, I'd say 55-58 then, considering 60 gear drops there.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiraJ
[Request] Please up the ilvl requirement for Pharos Sirius
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12-30-2013, 12:37 AMHavenchild[Request] Please up the ilvl requirement for Pharos Sirius
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12-30-2013, 12:44 AMMuzy
On the one hand, I do agree that it does have some walls that gear definitely helps over come, putting it at a higher requirement than Titan HM is wayyy over kill.
But honestly, it's more of a skill check than a gear check, it is a hell of a lot easier than people think, so long as people pay attention and do their jobs. First boss spawning adds too quick? Slow DPS and kill adds, then work on boss, too many debuffs? Dodge more and focus on the adds more.
Second boss, problems with adds? Slow DPS on boss and focus on adds.
Problems with Tyrant? Kill adds instead of ignoring?
Siren? Kill Zombies, interrupt Lunatic Voice, dodge her feral lunge, pay attention to debuffs and start healing that charmed person right away, make damn sure people run in for mass charm.
Yes, with less geared people it will take longer, but it's fully doable so long as people are doing what they are supposed to and know how to play their class. -
12-30-2013, 12:45 AMWobiThen they would need to up the gear level that drops from here as a result, otherwise why do it at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by Havenchild
Also from what I've heard the Siren is designed to spawn zombies at certain HP levels, if you burn down the her down too fast you can get overwhelmed. I first did this with all relic/allagan geared people and they were spawning in waves more or less non-stop. The mid-boss is a bit over-tuned however. -
12-30-2013, 01:05 AMAmyas
What is this.. I don't even...
lvl 60 gear drops from PS @-@
I've tanked it with two fresh 50 DD in af just fine. -
12-30-2013, 01:06 AMMadoka
Most of the adds spawn on hp%s, so faster dps will get overwhelmed more easily. When I go in there I don't do my full dps rotations or else we'll have 12 dogs or 8 eggs hatching at once
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12-30-2013, 01:07 AMMuzyYerp, people just expect to be able to brute force everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by Amyas
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12-30-2013, 01:10 AMKiraJWhy not make it 85? I mean okay the items that drop in there are just 60, but why making sense if we can make things just faceroll easy. Pwah...let's make it iLvl 120 so one can solo it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Havenchild
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12-30-2013, 01:12 AMviion
If you are rushing the first boss, you will get lots of dogs, its based on HP iirc, so a full pt of fresh 50 wouldnt have an issue as they would be slow at killing it in general and it would pan out better.
The rest is pretty simple, a lot of stuff you can stun and handle. The only things difficult is the first boss, siren you can stun most so its meh or keep hp full, tough i know but use your LB if its that tough. First boss its more about focusing on Ads and not trying to zerg him.
Overall the dungeon is annoying, so is both hard modes. I find them tougher in pug and more annoying than coil/ct lol -
12-30-2013, 01:19 AMHavenchildIt's not as simple as a brute force everything. It's quite possible that in DF, your running with DPS that literally can't kill one dog before the next set spawns. Putting aside where the 60 gear drops, its not only from Pharos Sirius either. There's gear dropping not so different, in AK, WP etc. Of course people are going to say something like "I ran with two fresh 50s and I had no problems at all", because its completely practical that it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzy
But people with all whites in Pharos Sirius? If you can honestly say running with a tank with 4400HP and DPS both with full whites (no relic) is completely possible 100% of the time,I'd implore anyone to tell me the secret to this.
Of course it's doable, that doesn't mean its viable. The same way housing prices and saving up for them is doable, that doesn't mean the prices aren't outrageous. -
12-30-2013, 01:21 AMHavenchildI usually make it a point to tell my groups to kill the adds first, people don't exactly listen though. Can't really do anything about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by viion