Thanks SE. . .

Champion's Lance

R50 CRP

Gear:

Velveteen Wedge Cap (Black)
Velveteen Doublet Vest (Black)
Velveteen Sarouel (Black)
Velveteen Shortgloves (Black)
Canvas Half Apron (Black)
Toadskin Crackows (Black) +1
Iron Chocobotail Saw +2
Steel Claw Hammer +1
4x Vitality Rings

On guild Support.

Skills used:

Perfection.
Assemble.

1st synth:

Basilisk Whetstone +1
Bloody lance Head
Iron Spear Clasp +2
Iron Lance Butt
Void Glue +1
Wolf Leather Strap +2
Mahogany Spear Shaft +1

Perfectly good synth progress.
No unstable harnesses.

Ended with 134 Quality / 109 Durability
about 6~7 touche ups.

Result: NQ

2nd Synth:

Basilisk Whetstone +1
Bloody lance Head
Iron Spear Clasp +2
Iron Lance Butt
Void Glue
Wolf Leather Strap +1
Mahogany Spear Shaft

Good synth progress.
1 unstable harness.

Ended with 146 Quality / 89 Durability
about 5~6 touche ups.

Result: NQ

Thanks.

Your quality wasn't high enough, obviously. When grinding out HQ cotton yarn, I've rarely achieved anything higher than NQ with less than 200 quality. Again, it can happen, but not as often. My suggestion:

1) use +3 mats when possible. if +3 is too expensive or unavailable, use +2. Going back to grinding cotton yarn, if I want HQ, I never use NQ or +1 cotton bolls.

2) Adjust your stats a bit more to complement which tool you are using. You are using vit rings, so I'm assuming that you are using your main hand. Increase your Vit stat. If it's already pretty high (around or between 100-120), go back to step 1

I HQ R50 gear with all NQ mats...
Same gear on me same setup same skills.
Also don't compare HQing mats or parts (no touche up option) with finished items (touche up option)
+3 mats?
Basilisk Whetstone
Bloody lance Head
Iron Spear Clasp
Iron Lance Butt
Void Glue
Wolf Leather Strap
Mahogany Spear Shaft

+1 is really hard to make for each one of the above. this isn't Jade Crook.

No real explenation about this event really.
Just lol and smash a couple of things u dont need that lay around the room.

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

I HQ R50 gear with all NQ mats...
Same gear on me same setup same skills.
Also don't compare HQing mats or parts (no touche up option) with finished items (touche up option)
+3 mats?
Basilisk Whetstone
Bloody lance Head
Iron Spear Clasp
Iron Lance Butt
Void Glue
Wolf Leather Strap
Mahogany Spear Shaft

+1 is really hard to make for each one of the above. this isn't Jade Crook.

No real explenation about this event really.
Just lol and smash a couple of things u dont need that lay around the room.

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while the +3 mats may seem impossible, they will greatly increase your chances of getting a HQ result. Again, with such low quality, your HQ chances are very very small. You, being a r50 CRP, already know this and I'm probably stating the obvious, but eh....the higher the quality the mats = the higher your starting quality = the higher the ending quality = the higher chance of HQ result

HQed stuff with 70 Quallity and not HQed stuff with 489 quallity.

146 is not bad at all for a R50+ synth.

This isn't a definite or proven forumla, but this is how I think of it to allow me to rationalise HQ results.

Take the last digit off your quality number. Consider that your percentage chance for HQ triggering. Thus 100 quality > 10% chance of HQ, 500 quality > 50% chance of HQ. Each touch up gives you a chance to take the HQ one stage further.

So in general, the higher your quality, the greater likelihood of something going HQ both when you complete progress and with each touch-up.

Thus I can rationalize getting HQ on a 15 quality item.

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

I HQ R50 gear with all NQ mats...
Same gear on me same setup same skills.
Also don't compare HQing mats or parts (no touche up option) with finished items (touche up option)
+3 mats?
Basilisk Whetstone
Bloody lance Head
Iron Spear Clasp
Iron Lance Butt
Void Glue
Wolf Leather Strap
Mahogany Spear Shaft

+1 is really hard to make for each one of the above. this isn't Jade Crook.

No real explenation about this event really.
Just lol and smash a couple of things u dont need that lay around the room.

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its not hard at all to HQ those mats, in the exception of a bloody lance head since its a drop =p. Hqing materials/parts just takes alot of patience and alot of luck. you wanna hear a complaint? i used a
Whetstone +2
void glue +3
spear clasp +3
Wolf strap +2
Spear shaft +2
and an Nq bloody lance head

Ended with 120 dura 275 quality and i had 10 touch-ups the 10th touch up was 20 dura left and it was still NQ i was so angry that i said to hell with it HW or bust and went for one more touch-up. Last touch up went 1dura left and finally went +1
Hqing stuff is 1part skill 9 parts luck

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Originally Posted by longtallsally

Hqing stuff is 1part skill 9 parts luck

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^^^ This is so damn true, it gets a little frustrating some times. Had a batch of R50 MRD axes made up. Had 280ish finished quality on them (think we made a batch of 5 or so) and 2x went +1. Then the we did a batch of lances which went 160ish quality and +2'ed. HQing is all about quantity over quality unfortunately, lending itself to being a gamblecraft more then a tradecraft.

I'd put your HQ+1 rate at about 30% for that quality assuming 4 touchup attempts for a quality of 140. Nothing you can do equip or not do to change that.
Chane of HQ2 is about 3% by my guess.

So 2 NQs is well within expected outcome.

I love all these 30% numbers and such people give when in reality its more more 5-7% at that quality

it really isnt that big of a chance until you get way higher up and even then its not great