Man up Tanks!

I have encountered a lot of parties in the duty roulette where tanks have just bailed on parties, mostly in wp, for no reason. None of these parties were a problem, most were a pleasure to run with. I always hit join pt in progress because a tank who bails in the middle is a pain in the ass and i can fill in np.

You are the most desired class, War or Pld. Man up and stop bailing on new players. Most either need to learn or are leveling alt classes that need gear. Stop Giving tanks a bad name.

A lot of tanks are very overly sensitive as well. Before 2.1, I was in a group that wiped on the first boss of AK. I made a comment that the tank needed to pull the boss behind a pillar and he proceeded to "The DPS is slow as S888. That's the problem" and leave. Honestly, I personally love tanking and believe that we have it better than most classes. We get instant queues into almost everything, we get to dictate the run in most cases. Our jobs are one of the most fun due to having a lot to think about, etc. I normally always talk to all my DF groups (at least saying "Hi all" and "Thanks for the run!"). Mainly because there are a lot of tanks with poor attitudes and I don't want people to think we're all like that.

I'm a very firm believer that Tanks (I am one as well) have a responsibility to parties to stick around. We're blessed with insta-queues when other people have to wait for significant amount of time to get into a dungeon. I don't think its ok to just join a group be unhappy and bounce because you know you'll be able to get another insta-queue (after timer anyway)

With no wait times in df for the most part i am more likely to run with a group not as geared or experienced and help them through. We have all been noobs at one point or another. I understand a Dps getting annoyed if they waited for 30+ min and the tank sucks or worse bails. But i have joined parties where they bailed less than a minute in, and fought nothing.

So back to my original point: Man Up!

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Originally Posted by EvilHippie

With no wait times in df for the most part i am more likely to run with a group not as geared or experienced and help them through. We have all been noobs at one point or another. I understand a Dps getting annoyed if they waited for 30+ min and the tank sucks or worse bails. But i have joined parties where they bailed less than a minute in, and fought nothing.

So back to my original point: Man Up!

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I've been doing this on my SCH -- sticking through dungeons to help/teach people. I almost always respond to /shouts for help for lowbie dungeons and primals.

I plan to "man up" on my WAR once I get there because of this exact problem. A lot of tanks get that ego boost because they're needed. I had one bail out on me on my VERY FIRST run for WP because I was only in SCH AF.

Healers, IMO, have been bigger drama queens. Probably because your life is in their (sometimes) douchy hands.

You know, sometimes the DPS/healers ARE bad. People who play tanks don't want to waste time either. That being said, I've met plenty of DPS and healers that helped me through tanking my first dungeons, so unless the party is TRULY terrible I help as much as I can. If people refuse to listen, which is a lot more rare than people make it out to be, I bail.

Inexperienced healers are why I cross-slot Cure and keep Convalescence on speed-dial.

The fact is, the Tank role requires great responsibility, and leadership, plus skilled play. Don't roll up a Tank if you don't have at least a little masochist and martyr in you :).

lol, that's how I used to max myth tomes faster.. join a party in progress.. got lucky a few times, joined a WP 2/3 finished, already at tonberry king.. 30 tomes for <5 minutes... on a side note, I very rarely quit a DF run... I try to help and explain as much as possible and let people practice, even if it seems hopeless for the given party. like an AK run I did once.. It was everybody elses first time, so before each boss I explained how it was gonna go.. 1st boss we probably wiped about 5 times before we got it done.. demon wall is hell on first timers, and wiped it so many times there was only about 20 minutes left by the time we got it.. but my satisfaction is seeing how chaotic it is for the first time, but then watching it get better and better because they're actually getting the hang of it and being more comfortable with the mechanics. we didn't finish the dungeon, but they got good experience in for the next time

It's true : sometimes a tank find a horrible party in DF.
But the opposite may happen : Garuda normal in DF. Me as WHM, SMN and BRD as DPS and a MRD as tank.
We began and the tank pulled Garuda betwin the 4 pillars, lost aggro and the BRD was forced to kitting...
Of course, we wiped in less than a minute.
And then, i take a look at the tank : MRD Lv 45 geared lv30 only with crafted stuff ! A real nightmare...

I enjoy running with new players, they got a different attitude than what you would see for a veteran lv50, making it quite pleasant.

The only time I ever bail on a run is when someone don't listen to simple commands, such as "don't pull mobs on your own" or "don't spirit bond in dungeon" etc.