Learn you job

I think that fate grinding to lvl 50 is the reason we have so many level 50 players that have no idea how to do their "JOB" class actions. I have been in AK and WP with Tanks that didnt even know what I meant when i told them they had to build aggro. wtf is that. So I have just been using my PLD fo the end game stuff. If people had to really play dungeons or story quests to level. they would be forced to learn their "job" or choose another. Don't get me wrong I get the fact that there is really no other way to hit 50 without fate grinding, but I have met players that are running HM primals and lvl 50 dungeons that don't know what Aggro is. I try to explain it and they don't get it so maybe the problem isn't fates, its just Ignorance. I love the game and can't wait for this patch to be done. Know your role...

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Originally Posted by Riepah

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Ugh got beaten to it!

10hrs!!? lol well ill be waiting. I was wondering about the world service switch. I am on Shiva and It appears to have alot more German and french speaking players. Does anyone know of a more english speaking server??

I just got what you were saying my bad Role not roll. lol

I just see too much of people not getting what part they are supposed to play in raids and primal fights. so the only thing I can come up with is that Fates are to blame??

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Originally Posted by Paladin13

If people had to really play dungeons or story quests to level.

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They're bumping up dungeon xp by a lot and adding the duty roulette so that it'll be a helluva lot easier to find groups for low level dungeons so I'm pretty sure that dungeon grinding is going to become the new standard leveling methodology. I'll agree that FATEs being the most efficient leveling path let a *lot* of players get to 50 without knowing even the slightest things about their jobs (I've run with BRDs that had no clue that they were supposed to be using their DoTs, nor that they even *had* them; I've run with BLMs that only knew how to spam Blizz I and Blizz II; I've run with WARs that never gained a single stack of Wrath because they had no clue how to use combos) but at least they're doing something to address it.

My guess is that they originally intended the "price" of FATEs to be the lack of gear (since everything *else* you could do to level provides gear) so that you'd be forced to go do other stuff in order to shore up your stats, but the massive FATE groups meant that terrible gear could easily overwhelmed by sheer numbers.

I also heard that the fate exp will be based on amount of people participating so it will probably be alot less exp for the Camp Dragonhead fates that have like 50 people doing them all at the same time. I was in a fate in Dragonhead and got like two swings with my Warrior and got like 15k exp. Don't get me wrong I was cool with that, but it makes it seem way too easy for me. So I guess we will see soon enough what they are going to be like soon. xD