Patch notes: Added effects now hitting through Stoneskin!

"Players will now receive the additional effects of other players' actions even if damage is completely nullified by statuses such as Stoneskin and Adloquium."

from here

It's worded "Players"... but chances of this applying to attacks from NPC mobs? :eek:

(If so, byebye solotanking Coil and avoiding Demon Wall repels!) :(

I'd say it's fairly likely.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

I'd say it's fairly likely.

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My Gut says the same.
And knowing how they'll implement it, I bet it'll apply to Hallowed Ground too.

Aww well, at least this means people will end up having to bring a second tank for turns 1 and 2 again. Although the ability to save a nearly-dead PUG run on Turn #2 by Hallowed'ing at just the right time to shed your debuff stacks was fun whilst it lasted! :)

I don't even understand what does that mean for stoneskin and adloquium

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Originally Posted by Maelwys

Players will now receive the additional effects of other players' actions even if damage is completely nullified by statuses such as Stoneskin and Adloquium.

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As a WAR tank, I am *totally* psyched about this change. Tanking t4 as a WAR was *horrible* because attacking the soldiers/knights (whichever ones have the physical damage absorb; I can never remember) didn't provide you with Wrath stacks or Maim.

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Originally Posted by Sygmaelle

I don't even understand what does that mean for stoneskin and adloquium

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It means that if a player/mob gets hit by an "added affect" ability, they'll always get the added effect.
This includes stuff like Repel, Damage Resistance Debuffs and as Kitru points out, Wrath.

CURRENTLY, if a target doesn't receive damage, they don't get the added effect. This lets parties complete parts of Coil with only one Tank, avoiding the Damage resistance debuff stacks via Stoneskin/Adloqium spam.

Combine this with the Virus-Stacking nerf, changes to Medica II and cross-class damage buffs... coil parties will get shaken up quite a bit!

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Originally Posted by Maelwys

coil parties will get shaken up quite a bit!

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Not to mention Limit Break building slower if you have 2 of any class in the group. Got 2 bards to silence? Welp, less Limits for you!

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Originally Posted by Maelwys

It means that if a player/mob gets hit by an "added affect" ability, they'll always get the added effect.
This includes stuff like Repel, Damage Resistance Debuffs and as Kitru points out, Wrath.

CURRENTLY, if a target doesn't receive damage, they don't get the added effect. This lets parties complete parts of Coil with only one Tank, avoiding the Damage resistance debuff stacks via Stoneskin/Adloqium spam.

Combine this with the Virus-Stacking nerf, changes to Medica II and cross-class damage buffs... coil parties will get shaken up quite a bit!

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Well I guess that when a mechanic is broken, its fairly normal. But yeah the Virus change gonna be interesting. Not a big big deal for turn 4 anyway, on 2 dreads just apply it on another one ... and pump up these eye for an eye