Cant decide on next myth purchase, PLD

I can get the gloves now.

Dont think its worth getting the chest or legs since they drop in the early stages of coil 1/2.. especially chest from first boss.

Gloves only from coil 4.

All peices will more or less give same str + vit upgrades and parry and more or less differ from crit/determnation/acc..

Or should I get my curtana + 1 instead of gloves.

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Originally Posted by Abyssion

I can get the gloves now.

Dont think its worth getting the chest or legs since they drop in the early stages of coil 1/2.. especially chest from first boss.

Gloves only from coil 4.

All peices will more or less give same str + vit upgrades and parry and more or less differ from crit/determnation/acc..

Or should I get my curtana + 1 instead of gloves.

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Curtana + 1, then Gloves.

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Originally Posted by Grembo

Curtana + 1, then Gloves.

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Correction: Curtana +1, then *RING* (because lol hoplite ring) then *Head* (because allagan heads don't exist yet, assumed turn 5 drop), then possibly earring/hands/shield.

Curtana +1 boils down to who you typically group with. Do you ever struggle for agro? If yes, get the weapon upgrade. Off-tanking turn4 I've wanted it very much...

Gloves are fine. If you're in a decent FC though, 1-4 goes down in an hour or 2 every week without fail. So Helm would then be the hard to get piece (turn5). That has the disadvantage of breaking your DL top, but worth considering.

@dark494: He/she already has the ring.

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Originally Posted by RhazeCain

@dark494: He/she already has the ring.

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What sorcery is this divination?

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Originally Posted by dark494

What sorcery is this divination?

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I'm no pro, but his avatar has his character name. Lodestone search.

if you're in coil, buy things that drop from turns you can't kill (turn 5: weapon, tank helm)

if you're not in coil.. it doesn't matter too much, buy whatever you think is pretty (valor body/gloves look amazing imo)

Would a better purchase be that ilvl55 milita HQ armour and buy the valor helm instead of relic+1 or gloves?

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Originally Posted by Abyssion

Would a better purchase be that ilvl55 milita HQ armour and buy the valor helm instead of relic+1 or gloves?

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It's always good to think outside the box! Good job! I was considering the Militia Armet HQ over of the Hoplite Circlet but it comes down to the stats.

A few people I have come across on these forums like to claim that "this is minuscule or that is minuscule" or "stats yield no significant increase to survive-ability," but they do. Getting certain pieces to get you closer to STR Caps for Damage mitigation is crucial and outweighs iLvl. This has been the case for many MMO's now where some equipment pieces from previous content are actually better than current-higher iLevel pieces because of stat allocation and abilities of the item (See Trinkets in WoW for example). Now I'm aware this isn't WoW, but the fact remains that you want to hit necessary caps for yourself. You want Accuracy (341 Base + 132~134 from Gear + 7 from Toast = 480~482), then you want as much Parry as you can get. If you are close to a STR Cap Tier (337, 364, 405) than you will want to re-allocate your 30 points to hit these.

From personal experience, these steps have greatly increased my survive-ability as a Warrior in Coil. I have Paladin leveled, but I have yet to use it, we have cleared the content (Turn 1-4) without using the Double PLD strategies for about 5 weeks now, and the more gear I accumulate on Warrior, the easier BC gets.

My overall opinion would be to take the time to look at your upgrades, not so much "Which piece should I upgrade compared to how achievable the BiS piece is." The iLvl stackers are the very thing that made hostile environments in WoW, "Yeah bro, cool you have a higher gear score than me, but you have tank trinkets equipped on your Resto Druid." Same case here, the Valor helm is probably the best piece to look into because of all the listed reasons; the Allagan Helm is Turn 5, the stats between Hoplite/Armet and Valor Helm are substantial (+8 STR and +9 VIT, STR being the most important), and it's higher base defense.

*IF you have the Accuracy to spare, I would look into the Valor Helm*

Otherwise, the Relic +1 is much more better for your BC experience than Valor Gloves (Which are not BiS if you are capping Accuracy and then maximizing Parry) over the Allagan Gloves which are semi-attainable depending upon your progression.

Sorry for the wall of text, but I hope this assists you rather than misleads you like some of these Forum Raiders.

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Originally Posted by Abyssion

Dont think its worth getting the chest or legs since they drop in the early stages of coil 1/2.. especially chest from first boss.

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Chances of seeing X item after Y attempts in coil.
I believe drop possibilities per boss are 19 items? so (1/19) + (1/18) because I do not believe same item can drop twice. Thus ~11% chance per run... so.

1. 11%
2. 20.8%
3. 29.5%
4. 37.3%
5. 44.2%
6. 50.3%
7. 55.8%

So basically if you run it 7 times straight, you will have a decent chance at seeing it at least one time.
BUT, you will likely have to roll your other tank on it.

So run it ~7x to likely see it once. Then win a 50/50 chance to win the roll, etc etc.
So it would seem if you run it ~12 times straight, you will have a good(50+%) chance of getting one for yourself.
3months then.

Don't expect to get item anytime soon just because it can drop in coil.
Although with all probabilities...you could see it first try, you could not see it til 20th try.