Healer Aggro

What is the deal with healer aggro ?

I go into a dungeon, The tank pulls, and yes I wait for the tank to establish. No I do not ever run past the tank.
Some if not all the mobs head straight for me.

I know certain spells pull aggro . But this is getting ridiculous.

I AM allowed to heal right ? Without having to spam heal myself because in CM all the adds head for me because I have to heal people who should not be getting aggro .

I can understand some aggro but this is getting out of hand.

Healer Aggro needs to be adjusted.

Sounds like Regen is your problem. If the tank still has Regen on when he/she goes to pull, when it ticks, the mobs run to you. If they're paying attention they can (and maybe should?) click it off first, but mostly they are either not paying attention or just don't know that they can do this.

99% of the time in any dungeon if the adds come straight to me on a few cure I/II, it means the tank didn't get solid hate on them. If DPS are also getting threat, it either means the DPS didn't wait for tank, or again tank didn't establish enough first.

Problem is almost never healer aggro in those cases. This isn't to say healer can't easily get aggro, but that if it is happening right from the start, it is on the tank. Run into this all the time in DF.

And yes as stated above by Calyanare, the other 1% is regen and I just timed it badly. ;)

I cast regen on all party members at all time and focus my cure II or III on tank (after the tank gets firm hold of aggro), whenever adds comes at me i use Shroud of Saints to decrease the aggro, if all that fails, i would run to tank and hope tank would pick the rest of adds off me, and try not to over heal, that generates aggro.

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Originally Posted by baopee

I cast regen on all party members at all time and focus my cure II or III on tank (after the tank gets firm hold of aggro), whenever adds comes at me i use Shroud of Saints to decrease the aggro, if all that fails, i would run to tank and hope tank would pick the rest of adds off me, and try not to over heal, that generates aggro.

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You shouldn't really keep regen on all party members. Overheal generates aggro, but regen overheal does too. Every tick of a Regen on a player adds that heal amount to the threat of all enemies in combat. If you've got 4 regens ticking at once which arent healing anything, your threat will be through the roof.

A tank's enmity combo establishes threat on one target.

A single Cure 1 builds threat on all engaged targets evenly.

At a guess, I'd say you ran into a tank who wasn't using Flash properly to build threat on targets he wasn't actively slapping.

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Originally Posted by baopee

I cast regen on all party members at all time and focus my cure II or III on tank (after the tank gets firm hold of aggro), whenever adds comes at me i use Shroud of Saints to decrease the aggro, if all that fails, i would run to tank and hope tank would pick the rest of adds off me, and try not to over heal, that generates aggro.

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Wow, no, regen is reserved for tank, or a dps you don't expect to take more damage any time soon. and for MP you should be using Cure I which will prevent much overhealing and allow for free Cure II, as for Cure III it's very situational in that its range is so short that it is only MP and Enmity effective on an Overcure proc with a stacked group. Also if one mob is left and around half health don't apply a new regen just to be safe.

I rarely have problem with getting agro, but when I do, it's usually because regen ticked at an awkward time because we are running through mobs fast and tank still has it on from the fight previous. I love shroud of saints though, that usually does the trick during the times I manage to get agro.

It's usually the tank if you know for a fact that it's not you. If you didn't over heal, spam heal, cast regen or buff before pull, stand away etc... it could be because your gear is higher than the tank. I was in SVigil with a seriously low geared tank and he couldn't hold hate... I had to basically be the tank and spam heals so that we could move forward. But I told myself that this is stupid and just left. Because there's no way I could keep it up when the first boss comes around.

Thank You for the responses . I will try clicking off the regen suggestion. But as I am reading all the responses all I see is,

This spell is generating aggro that one is generating aggro . Use this and not that ect.
So yes some of the spells healers are casting creates to much aggro .

Then why did SE give me a spell that creates way to much hate? It seems that it is a lot of guess work at this point.

All I am suggesting is SE take a close look at healer aggro and adjust it accordingly