Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

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Originally Posted by Stasya

Like legit think before you try to defend playing in a match against unfair advantage.

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And pray tell, what "unfair advantage" is that supposed to be? Gear means nothing, because every job gets the same stats. There isn't even some specialization, so every job also has the same abilities. And you can switch jobs at will, with something around a 20 second duration at the very start of the game where you can see what your alliance has and make an appropriate decision..

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Originally Posted by Stasya

Very smart person typing "get good lmao" while forgetting rng based spawns and there is another team running around in a match too you know. "Durr i always win blablabla"

Like legit think before you try to defend playing in a match against unfair advantage.

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Both RNG and "the other team" make the win more difficult, however neither guarantees a loss. However as Gunz said, there's a time for discussing how bad a team's RNG is or how 2 other teams are out to get your team, but that isn't in the middle of a match. If you want to take that as "git gud" it would be fair, because some people either throw their hands up in the air and start complaining, or give up - which is easy- and get distracted- the good players adapt their strategy. Which takes more "effort". I put that in quotes, since I would expect if someone isn't there only for tomestones or EXP they may actually enjoy getting better.

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Originally Posted by Stasya

Very smart person typing "get good lmao" while forgetting rng based spawns and there is another team running around in a match too you know. "Durr i always win blablabla"

Like legit think before you try to defend playing in a match against unfair advantage.

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I don't always win and I never said I was good. You have a 33% chance on average. Maybe winning less than 50% makes people feel like their winning less than half the players. I don't know why they have a defeatist attitude, but it doesn't help to complain about the players who play well.
Any version of pvp with 24v24v24 is going to be pure chaos. I remember secure, running to the top to hit that helidrone and getting hit by sleep and 6 blm lb aoes, lol so cursed.

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Originally Posted by Stasya

Very smart person typing "get good lmao" while forgetting rng based spawns and there is another team running around in a match too you know. "Durr i always win blablabla"

Like legit think before you try to defend playing in a match against unfair advantage.

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You still have not explained how people are abusing a queue system. They just queue and even queue syncing is far from abuse cause that does not even guarantee they will be on the same team.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

You still have not explained how people are abusing a queue system. They just queue and even queue syncing is far from abuse cause that does not even guarantee they will be on the same team.

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I think they're more upset that the only way you can reasonably win in Frontline nowadays is if you happen to get multiple premades with DRK, AST, DRG, and whatever other meta jobs in your alliance. If you don't see any of those compositions, well, gg.

That is NOT how Frontline is supposed to be, but since SE refuses to put any modicum of effort into balancing this mode, this is what we're left with.

I just did a Frontline match and I didn't see any DRK/AST/etc comps, and knew we were gonna lose. Guess what? We lost.

This kind of balance would be hilarious if it weren't so annoying.

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Originally Posted by Wilford111

I just did a Frontline match and I didn't see any DRK/AST/etc comps, and knew we were gonna lose. Guess what? We lost.

This kind of balance would be hilarious if it weren't so annoying.

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Obviously. I would like all the jobs to be balanced... at the same time:

"The meta hasn't changed in 2 years"
"Drk,ast,drg are so strong"
"Salted Earth to op, no counterplay"

It's easier than ever to perform well in pvp, but people refuse to put in any effort. Many are still under some strange notion that bard is good. Maybe a bit ironic, but the devs are putting in as much effort into pvp as the casual na player is.

Why should they put more effort into balance when it won't change how the players react in the mode?

I would really like them to, but it probably just seems like a waste of time.

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Originally Posted by Wilford111

I think they're more upset that the only way you can reasonably win in Frontline nowadays is if you happen to get multiple premades with DRK, AST, DRG, and whatever other meta jobs in your alliance. If you don't see any of those compositions, well, gg.

That is NOT how Frontline is supposed to be, but since SE refuses to put any modicum of effort into balancing this mode, this is what we're left with.

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Have you consider trying dan-

Echo activates.
Flashback occurs of me charming the entire team while mines runs away to a different objective.
Echo ends. Sighs and walks away.

Never mind. Forget what I was going to say.

Woot 1,000th post!

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Originally Posted by Gaiinahat

Woot 1,000th post!

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O_o

Seriously though, considering the player base, frontline is a broken mess that incentivizes griefing. It's no longer a place for those who actually likes the mode. And there isn't really any way to fix it. Too broken. Tbh, I'd rather see it deleted at this point. Kinda curious on 7.1 though, but no high hopes.